Copper appetite loss?

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  1. oldfishkeeper

    oldfishkeeper Giant Squid

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    Since I lack experience with treating fish with medicine I'm cautious to give any advice but I think just letting things go for now if the fish are acting more normal today may be the best thing at this moment.
     
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  3. Corailline

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    George I thought you decided to stop the treatment with copper because the Angel fish looked stressed and was not eating or barely eating.

    If you look at the link I gave you, the OP gave some very specific first hand experience with regard to Angels not eating, copper and Angels, food types, and duration of treatment.

    If the Angel does indeed have Marine Ich and you are going QT everything from here on out then you probably should proceed with the treatment if you think the Angel will survive (read the link).

    Consider either leaving the lighting off during treatment, I suggest not turning the lighting on just to check on the fish frequently or at all if you can avoid it. It's almost impossible to judge a fishes mentation and response to treatment when the fish is startled and hiding.

    The fish should not have any adverse reactions to the use of Chempure Elite.

    Deep breaths.;)
     
  4. George9

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    Sorry I wasnt very clear. Let me go back a little bit lol

    A few weeks ago I had an auriga butterfly and a long nose. The Auriga got ich and died a few days later. The longnose never got infected.

    During this time, I had a few fish in qt. Since I was Just gonna treat both tanks with cupramine, I freshwater dipped the new ones and moved them. Few days later I did cupramine.

    My stock is: longnose. Falcula butterfly, clown and angel.

    Jump to today and the angel wasn't eating but doing well. But then the falcula started breathing heavy and hidjng . I panicked and began removing copper (yesterday) because I can't lose this fish. So that means I only had 15 days of copper. The concentration is still .3-.4 when I removed the CPE last night.

    I don't know if I want to add more copper and risk stressing my expensive butterfly (which I also think has lympho), or remove the copper some more.

    I just panicked because this butterfly was my best eater a couple days ago, and he stopped eating yesterday.
     
  5. George9

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    They were all out when I got home today. The falcula is still Breathing hard and doesn't eat, along with the angel. No signs of ich though. I think it would be best to remove the copper and see what happens due to the lympho possibly getting worse under stressful conditions. I messssed up soo bad this time haha

    I have water mixing up for a water change

    Here's a vid of the falcula http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jua7UJGibJE&feature=plcp
     
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  6. George9

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    Ahh sorry so many posts. As the day goes on, the falcula looks worse and worse. I have NO idea why and it pisses me off. I hope he makes it through the night, but I don't know what to do with him. He's breathing very hard, his head and small part if body is turning grayish. Ah man :(

    I added an airstone in front of the powerhead for more oxygen in case that's the problem. I think I'm done with the chaetodon butterflies. I've had bad luck with them. My longnose is doing fantastic though. I think I'll get easier species this time. I just feel so horrible. $50 gone
     
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  7. oldfishkeeper

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    I couldn't get the video to play :(
     
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  9. George9

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    Disregard everything lol. Lights off, he's laying on the bottom, lifeless. Game over. I took the CHEMI PURE ELITE out. Question is, should I keep copper going it just scratch it? I think I might add it back.

    Thanks for your help :(

    Edit- I think it was a mobile link, I guess it won't work in desktops
     
  10. oldfishkeeper

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    so sorry for your loss :(
     
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  11. George9

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    Thanks :)

    This is just not my week. the angel passed away last night as well. Longnose and clown are doing really well. Copper was .5, which the angel handled fine for the last 2 weeks.

    Thanks for all your help :)