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  1. oppie11

    oppie11 Plankton

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    ok the fish store where i have been going for my fresh water sells salt so i decide i want salt i havea 115 gallon tank and dont know what to use for it this guy at the store is trying to sell me 80 gallon refugium what do i need fro my tank swap can any 1 plz help
     
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  3. reef_guru

    reef_guru Humpback Whale

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    stores will sell a dead man a grave. are you setting up a reef tank or fish tank?
     
  4. coral reefer

    coral reefer Giant Squid

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    Refugiums are very beneficial for both types of tank, reef or fish only, however the benefits are more so with a reef! Plus the ability to see a whole other aspect of marine life in a refugium aids to this viable theory and a refugiums significance and symbiotic relationship with your main tank and its inhabitants!
    Welcome to 3reef oppie11 by the way!
    Best of lucky and hope you enjoy it here!
     
  5. omard

    omard Gnarly Old Codfish

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    To 3Reef!!!


    Salutations! Glad to see you found way here! ;D
    WTF...:confused: A refugium is one of the last things you need when just starting out. Use current tank as a sump if you want --- any large plastic container will do also. There are some unscrupulous LFS's out there that will try and sell you a rocket ship to help startup a SW tank. Once identified, stay away from them! :furious:

    Best advice you can get is here at 3Reef. ;D

    Below are some links that may help you get started.
    (If anyone has some good "starter" links to add, pls post.)

    Have fun. Good Luck!



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    The Tao of Marine Aquaria
    Tips for Our Hobby and Life

    © 1997 Adam H. Whitlock
    Edited By Elizabeth M. Lukan 11/25/00




    (updated 08 Oct 2007)


    Information For The New Salt Water Aquarist

    (1st Salt Water Aquarium!)





    Below are listed a number of links that should answer most of the questions a new saltwater aquarist (or a person interested in taking on the hobby) would need to know/ask about techniques of the "art". While there are literally thousands of pages on the web covering these subjects, these links are ones that state them simply and most completely in a condensed way. They are the links I would recommend to anyone first starting out in the hobby.




    Knowing How to Set Up a Marine Aquarium, Adam Blundell M.S.

    Thinking about setting up a saltwater aquarium? (melevsreef.com)

    An Introduction to the Marine Aquarium Hobby (Part 1) - Associated Content (Parrothead)

    An Introduction to the Marine Aquarium Hobby (Part 2) - Associated Content (Parrothead)

    A List Of Good Beginner Fish

    Fish To Be Avoided - I

    Fish To Be Avoided - II




    by J. Charles Delbeek​


    "They are mysterious guests from an exotic world. Unlike anything else we keep in an aquarium, they represent the essence of the coral reefs that we try to duplicate in our living rooms. Our success at this effort depends greatly on how well we understand these unusual life forms.

    Unfortunately, for the average hobbyist, the increased availability of these animals is not matched by the information available concerning their biology and care. Too often, hobbyists know more about who manufactures their aquarium equipment than basic biological information, or proper identification of the animals they are striving to keep. And yet, without this information it is difficult to provide the optimum conditions that will allow them to grow and reproduce."



    Answers to Everything!











    Learn to Live With It

    Adam Blundell M.S. ​


    "...As surprising as it may seem your tank will look ugly at first. This happens to all new marine aquariums as they cycle through their initial filtration phase. Your tank may go brown, and then green, and then red, and then just look junky. It happens. Consequently the one coral you really want to keep may not live. You may struggle to raise the prize fish you originally intended to acquire. It's okay; just learn to love whatever is working for you. Remember, not only is this a hobby, but we are keeping living ecosystems. Special efforts should be put forth to enjoy and appreciate what we are keeping, whatever it may be. It takes time and patience to turn a glass box full of rock into a beautiful, thriving reef tank..."
     
  6. oppie11

    oppie11 Plankton

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    i want to set my tank up with fish and sting rays and tangs and clown no reef
     
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    bulltrader Bristle Worm

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    I think you better take it nice and slow and do a lot of reading first. A stingray needs lots of room and needs lots of care and probably nothing more than sand in your aquarium.
     
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  9. Nemo 2

    Nemo 2 Bristle Worm

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    yea stingrays need alot of room.they travel alot.but you do have a big tank possibly a smaller one that doesnt grow as much.i have 2 tanks and no refguim.
     
  10. KOgle

    KOgle Zoanthid

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    What are the measurements on your 115? That's probably not a big enough tank for a stingray.
     
  11. oppie11

    oppie11 Plankton

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    my tank is 60''long 25 ''tall and 18'' wide i just bought a 60 gallon refugium with g2 skimmer and a 36 watt uv sterilizer i am going to do sugar size sand 100 lbs and 115 lbs of live rock with 60 lbs of mud on my fresh water tank i am runing 2 emperor 400 1 rena xp4 60 power compact and 36 watt uv on my fresh tank i am going to be runing 2 20 hf rios
     
  12. Otty

    Otty Giant Squid

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    I Like that! ;D
    Will have to remember that one.