maroon clowns

hey everyone, I'd really like some advice with this, although it may not be something thats objective with fish.
I've had a maroon clown for a while that has its own bubble-tip anenome. I really want to pair two maroons, so i purchased a smaller maroon hoping that it was a male, and the one i have is female. So i put it in the tank and the "female" (which i think it is) has attacked and eaten lots of the fins of the new one. So i decided to try a technique that might help them get along. I created a container that has holes and all thats clear. I purchased a new bubble tip anenome and placed it with the new maroon with his fins chewed. He has entered it and the other maroon seems really unhappy with it. What can i do to help them connect? or is the larger one just super territorial and doesn't want nething to do with the new one.
Please, give me some help with maroons. THEYRE AWESOME!!!

sterling

 

The only way these things are gonna pair up is if you change the surroundings. The established maroon IMO will just kill the other one at this point if the tank remains to be "her" personal space. If you take the female out, change the scenery, and reintroduce them both at the same time you MIGHT have a better chance.

 

Yeah.....I'd have to agree. There will always be some butt kicking at the beginning, but it should not have to lead to death. Froc has a good point.....have them reestablish terratories and there will be a chance. Under optimal conditions, they should to be introduced at the same time. Also, be aware that of all the clowns, maroons are among the most aggressive.

 

hey guys.
That sounds like a fabolous idea, and i think it might help, although "sydney", the already established clown may just be naturally super aggressive, hopefully not. Do you think that rearranging the aquarium will stir up the efficient bacteria and such? Any ideas to the best way to arrange it so i dont hurt anything and such? should i take all the fish out while i do it? Its only a 30 gallon biocube that has a stock of load of the follows:
1 cleaner shrimp
9 snails
1 met. blue hermit
1 banggai cardinal
1 scarlett hawkfish
2 maroon clowns

Also, each clownfish now has an established anenome. Will they find theres again when they re enter the aquarium or should i keep them with it while i change it up?
thanks so much, greatly appreciated. really want them to work out

 

I'm not too sure if you need to remove everything. I would look out for the hawkfish though. i know they like crevaces and such. Just make sure everything is outta the way. Like move all the snails and grabs to the front corners or something. Maybe a pic of the tank will help us help you.

 

Hey,
so i took out al the corals and rocks and inverts and such except the fish. Although i did take out the two maroon clowns. I erarranged everything, and a pwc. I put the smaller maroon in first; where he found his anenome. Half hour later i let the other maroon out. She just went to the new anenome and pushed him out of it. She didnt really attack him for it and he was so upset. About an hour later though, she started attacking him and stuff. I have an open brain coral thats on a curved rock. The small maroon has sought refuge under the rock where the larger one cant get too. She hasnt moved since, but still no luck.

 

At this point I would just let them work it out. please post update cause I wan't to try to do the same thing with my maroon.

 

Just a heads up I have an old Maroon In my set up also a female i believe, SHe is Super aggresive to almost any fish that comes near her Anemone. I added a small Panther Grouper that was only staying long enough for my brothers Birthday she killed him the second night he was there I noticed her ramming him and by the time i got my net and scooped the grouper it was too late and he died in the sump from Blunt force trauma.(lol)
I laugh because she just kept ramming the poor thing. and i never seen so much aggresion from a fish that didnt intend to eat what it killed. If you want to breed Maroons i think the best idea would be to buy too younger ones and introduce them at the same time. Good Luck

 

Alright, so this is what has happened to our poor "maui" (the small maroon). He was continually attacked and found a hiding spot underneath an open brain coral which is on a concaved rock (very little cave where the larger one could not fit). All day today, the larger maroon attacked the little guy, and eventaully hope was lost. Maui is not pronounced dead yet as i have not seen him anywhere in the tank, but needless to say, i havent any faith. I love maroons though and i feel bad for the little guy as i feel like i tortured the poor bugger. Anyways, i do believe introducing two small ones together would be best idea. I really want to pair some maroons and am gonna ask a LFS if i can trade my larger maroon for a smaller one and purchase one also. Thatd be the best deal but im sure they wouldnt settle. Any further suggestions or inquiries please ask.
Sterling,
thanks for all the advice, best of luck

 

When my maroon kept being a pain and chasing all the damsels, I moved the rocks around and she has settled down. I am planning on breeding her too, but have to get my fuge setup first, then I have to move out my damsels. After I do that and get the new maroon, I'll rearrange the rock again to disturb her established territory and let them settle in together. The new guy will go into a small tupperware container until acclimated to my bully maroon hehe. Most LFS will not hold 2 maroons together in the same cell, so realistically, you may have the same scenario if you trade the larger one in. It's nature and time is needed for them to get used to each other. Think of it like an arranged marriage, it takes time to get them to know each other. The females will always dominate the males. Once they establish sexes, they will then bond and let nature take its course.