Ro/ di unit

I guess we will consider it done. Thank you for the awesome quick advice. I would made the buy cheap get cheap crab decision before this site.

One again az rat. Thank you

 

I dont want to start an arguement with anyone, but I saw one of the previous posters recommended pure water club. I am from the complete other end of the spectrum and completely disagree. I bought a unit from them and it was all but pure junk. Every single fitting leaked right of the box, 2 fittings were crossthreaded and had to be replaced. The canisters were bolted on to the bracket thru the shipping plastic and had to be disassembled to get it all out. Nothing sealed anywhere. Hell it wasnt even assembled correctly from the factory and had the lines routed back onto itself. Absolutely no customer service. The only customer serive I got was 2 months after leaving a neutral ebay feedback, did I get an email asking me to redo/remove the comment, and that I shouldve emailed them before hand. Well answer one of the 7 emails I sent! Once I finally got it assembled and working sure its a nice enough unit, but it shouldnt cost me an additional $30 in parts and gas, and 4 days to get it going.

If I was on fire and purewaterclub water was the only thing on hand.... let me burn.

 

Wow.... All I can say happy I went with spectra pure

 

Its unfortunate companies like Purewater are still around, one of the drawbacks of Ebay. Companies such as that import cheap products from overseas by the ship load then make their ebay ads sound like the best thing since sliced bread. Copyright infringement and patent violations are rampant overseas and it hurts the legitimate companies that spend 10's of thousands of $$ getting their products tested by ANSI/NSF, UPC, UL and others so they meet codes and standards. Their products look similar so often get mistaken for a quality system when in fact they are substandard.

What you soon learn is they do not work well so you end up spending a bunch of money to upgrade them or replace inferior components and worst case, but all too often, you suffer floods or other issues when they burst or fail. Even when they work, they do not work as well as a quality system amd end up costing you much more money in replacements than if yoy had bought the quality system to begin with. I can't tell you how many people who have requested my help to upgrade a ebay system to make it work the way it should, its a lot. They can be made to work but you are still stuck with low grade plastic hosuings that tend to burst if you experience water hammer or surges from things like sprinkler valves slamming off. Also things like low end compression fittings that tend to leak whenever they are bumped or moved and low quality filters that are about as effective as a screen door. Then the ridiculous little hollow tubes they call DI filters are a joke, not only do they hold much less than the normal 20 oz of DI resin but they also channel or short circuit so do a very poor job of treatment since the water takes the path of least resistance and trickles along the bottom so the resin closer to the top is wasted. They add two or three and call them stages which is really false advertising since even three of them don't come close to one good vertical 10" DI filter plumbed properly so it fills from bottom to top.

Then you don't get things like pressure gauges, TDS meters, low micron high capacity filters, fresh nuclear or semiconductor grade DI resins or even custom blended resins packed in mylar foil bags for freshness, capillary tube flow restrictors, tested membranes, guaranteed membranes, treated membraned, metal brackets, etc.

 

I would have been that guy buying the cheap crap off eBay. Bit not anymore I have a refurbished spectra high quality stuff headed my way. At least I won't have to redo this.

 

I have never had any issues with mine, even right out of the box. Don't know if I was fortunate, or if things have changed, but just giving my experience. I own a spectrapure, and had the pure water club before. As far as TDS they preform exactly the same. Never had a leak from either of them. Never had a cracked fitting, part, or filter. So, just like you give your opinion that is mine.

 

Its hard to compare side by side unless you monitor RO rejection rates and DI life. The Spectrapure will outperform the other guaranteed which leads to a much lower cost of ownership. Any RO/DI should give you 0 TDS, at least for a little while and thats the key. Its how long it stays at 0 TDS that makes the difference. Add to that the lifespan of a Spectrapure RO membrane if you use their suggested replacement filters and schedule. Its not unheard of to have a membrane last 10+ years of heavy use, heck Randy Holmes Farley reported over 10 years a year or two ago and we know he uses a ton of water. The other will not do that so the cost of new membranes every 18 months or so far exceeds the cost of one membrane every 10 years. Thats not opinon thats fact.

 

I have no doubt of that. Nor did I make any claim to it lasting 10 years or anything near that. However, the claims that it came broken, missing parts, cross threaded, have no bearing on that. I do believe that the above poster had a terrible time with his/her unit, but said that after he/she got it working it was decent. Well I never experienced any of the problems, I only see it being a decent unit for the price.That was my experience and am happy to voice that. Sure it isn't a spectrapure but aside from the current refurb price point (120) they start at like 200 dollars.. Not everyone, including myself, can afford that. Hence the recommendation of a decent unit for significantly less cash.

Not trying to argue with you, I totally agree spectrapure is the way to go, and I said that multiple times. I just don't see it being a fair assessment by calling other units crap (which I don't believe you [AzDesertRat] said, but it was claimed above)

 

You need to look at not only the initial investment but what it costs you to operate and maintain the system over time, too many people look at that cheap price and neglect to pay attention to how long things last or how well they work. I have a spreadsheet which shows even at $200 the Spectrapure unit is saving you money within one year and paying you back from then on. The initial cost is a small part of the equation.
My unit the MaxCap UHE was around $800 but paid for itself inside 3 years and keeps on ticking. Most people would choke at that but I'm money ahead since my DI resins last over 1,000 gallons and my membrane is still operating at 99.35% rejection rate after over 3 years of service even with my tap water over 650 TDS. Not many can claim that.
In all honesty, even though I didn't say it before the Pure Water units are crap and I'm not the least bit ashamed saying John Guest speed fit vs. compression, clear name brand ANSI/NSF and UPC approved canisters vs. who know what import?, inline pressure gauge vs. none, treated and tested Dow Filmtec RO membrane vs. who knows what since they don't bother to tell you, name brand low micron absolute rated prefilters vs. ?, 0.5 micron 20,000 gallon carbon blocks vs 5 micron possible 5,000 gallon carbons, and the lst goes on. They need to stick to low end drinking water systems or do some research on whet a good system really is. Companies like Buckeye, PurelyH2o, AWI, Bulk Reef, Watts Premier, Spectrapure, Melevs and others can't all be wrong since they build quality systems consumers can buy with confidence.

 

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