Would this constitute overstocked?

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  1. brannock_16

    brannock_16 Ritteri Anemone

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    So as I look at my tank I notice that I need some more color. I was thinking that in the distant future, I might want to add another fish to the fix. So far I have the following:

    1 Blue Hippo Tang
    1 Two Spot Bristletooth Tang
    2 Misbar Oscellaris Clowns
    1 Cleaner Wrasse
    1 Diamond Goby
    2 Green Chromis
    1 Tuxedo Urchin
    1 Conch
    Handful of snails and hermits
    1 Purple Lobster

    Now mind you I have a 120 Gallon tank that is 5 feet long, offering swimming length. I will be upgrading my skimmer soon, to a better hang on the back model made by reef octopus rated for up to 120 G (and then eventually a in sump reef octopus skimmer), and then sometime after the new year, will be adding a sump/refugium to my DT.

    My question is could I add a Yellow Tang/Purple Tang/or a reef safe trigger to the mix? If so should I wait until after the addition of the sump/refugium thus increasing water capacity as well as upgrading the protein skimmer?

    Let me know if this would be pushing my limits for the tank. By the way it is going to be a mixed reef, possibly with a nem down the road.
     
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  3. norg.

    norg. Kole Tang

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    it wouldnt sound overstocked with a purple or yellow tang to me. most triggers do get to be quiet large if i remember correctly though, so i would go with a tang. 5 feet of swimming space is adaquet for tangs, but just for good measure i would recommend bigger. the bigger the better is something that always seems to come up in this hobby. lol just make sure your parameters are good and your fish and corals should all be happy.
     
  4. drew3

    drew3 Blue Ringed Angel

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    ya i agree also having a excellent clean up crew helps alot. the only other problem i could see is your tank might not have enough oxygen with all those big fish and if you add more big fish that could become a problem but you have a 120 so idk just my 2 cents
     
  5. RedGambit

    RedGambit Giant Squid

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    I dont think it would, In my 120 I have a:
    Purple Tang
    Naso Tang
    Chevron Tang
    Hippo Tang
    Magnificent Foxface
    Blueface Angel.
    2 Cleaner Shrimp.
    4 TurboSnails
    2 Neon Gobies

    And I've kept my parameters at ideal spots. Mind you the fish are all small ((Chevron/Hippo)Smaller then most clownfish) but ill be setting up a larger tank this winter after I move.

    As for the oxygen I my powerhead set up to add more oxygen in the water. Might be why Im not having issues with it.
     
  6. iLLwiLL

    iLLwiLL Sailfin Tang

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    Just because some people shoe horn loads of fish into tanks with limited short term success doesn't mean its right or ideal. Bottom line is everyone's tank is different, and no one knows your personal setup better than you do. If your tank has been up for a while and everything is 100% ideal in your eyes (like after you upgrade the skimmer and add on the fuge) then go for it . . . just do plenty of actual homework first.

    ~Will.
     
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  7. trelane

    trelane Peppermint Shrimp

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    This is the only correct answer, though the corollary is "if in doubt, don't".
     
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  9. johnmaloney

    johnmaloney 3reef Sponsor

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    I dont think it is overstocked, but I would skip the cleaner wrasse. Just wont be enough parasites in your tank to keep them alive, just a matter of time before they die.
     
  10. oceanparadise1

    oceanparadise1 Fire Squid

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    no, you wont be over stocked! John, the african strain is much hardier, i have had one for about 6 months and the guy before me had it for about a year. It eats frozen and flake. Alot of the african strains i have seen around here eat frozen, if thats the case i dont see a problem with them at all.
     
  11. brannock_16

    brannock_16 Ritteri Anemone

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    Ya, my cleaner eats frozen, flake, even nori! He is a ravenous little guy. I would eventually like to upgrade to a larger tank, but that would be a ways down the road. I just don't want to cause any undue stress on the fish while they are in my care.