2010 Ford Escape Question?

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  1. horkn

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    So now you are looking at a sport trac? LOL

    I was responding to Iraf before about the sport trac. Those are nice vehicles. My dad is looking at getting one as well. If you have a lot of mixed activities, those are very versatile.

    65000 miles or 6500 miles on it, what are they asking price wise?

    Going between that and the fwd escape v6, the escape will get 8 mpg or maybe better on the freeway than the sport trac. A friend has an 01 or so first gen escape (same chassis as the new ones)v6 fwd with the older tranny that is either 4 or 5 speed. She gets nearly 30 mpg freeway. With the 6 speed auto they have now, you can expect easily the same if not better mpgs.
     
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  3. Iraf

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    I have an 08 Sport Trac XLT with the 4.0L rated for 5500lbs but take my experience in this STAY AWAY their gutless, to much weight for that engine and it will not pull 5500lbs I have to floor mine to get near 65mph with my 4000lbs boat on the back
    the other thing is the fuel mileage kind of sucks, for the same money you can get an F150 and get the same mileage with a v8

    and next year that is exactly what I'm going to be doing, either an eco-tec f150 or a 6.2L V8 depending on reviews for both on their towing abilities and if the dealer will let me hook my boat to the rear and pull it around for a few minutes to see how it feels
     
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    Maybe your boat has a lot of frontal area, or wind drag? Granted the 08 Sport track is bigger than the explorer sport I had, but I don't think it is a question of weight. I know in the newer explorer and sport tracks, the v8 actually gets better mpg, and has a lot more power to boot.


    That Cologne V6 in your sport trac has been around in various forms for about 40 years. After the 4.0 has been replaced by a better 3.7 v6 in the new v6 mustang, the only vehicle that that 4.0 SOHC propels are explorers ( for a short short time until the unibody explorer comes out), sport tracs, and the ranger IIRC. I have actually had 5 of those cologne v6's myself over the years. It's time to officially drop that motor, but the few vehicles it still powers are very low selling ones.

    FWIW, I am jonesing for a eco boost flex. I test drove one this week and I am hooked. That v6 with twin turbos has a TON of power and no penalty of mpg at all. And in that vehicle, it goes 0-60 in the very low 6 second range. It's 355 hp 350 tq in that configuration, but tuners can get 400 hp out of it with no issues. Plus, it's paddle shifters work about as well as one could expect for manual gear changes.
     
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    We had a few Explorers in our fleet at work. After that much mileage, A LOT started to go wrong with them.
     
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    $15,000.00

    My mom said that go check out the Chevy trucks since she is close friends with the owner of 6 Stores in Detroit she could probably get me a good deal.
     
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    boat's weight is dead center on the dual 4500# axles of the trailer and most of the weight on this boat is towards the rear anyway very little tongue weight the truck just can't pull it and I agree the 3.7 is looking like a better engine but the new explorers are going to be FWD and there will be no more sport trac on the next gen they've already announced that
    as far as towing capabilities of the eco-boost those are in question still since the majority of the torque on a turbo engine is produced at higher rpm which doesn't sit well with towing
     
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    Also, in 09 the Escapes got a big boost in power.

    4 cylinders went from 153 hp in 08 to 171 hp in 09, and the v6 went from 200 hp in 08 to 240 hp in 09. The 09s have 6 speed autos, and the 08s and older had 4 speeds. Big difference in speed, power, and mpg, all better with more speeds in the tranny.

    I know a lot of very high mileage explorers either 6 or 8 cylinders that have been extremely reliable and pretty much no extra maintenance outside of the oil change, brake jobs, and tire replacements. I don't ever gauge a vehicles reliability by fleet vehicles, because fleet vehicles get beat on mercilessly. Vehicles that are privately owned are almost always more reliable than fleet cars because the people that own them are driving them.
     
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    for pulling jet skis an explorer would work fine as well would an escape, just doesn't work for a 22' bay boat
     
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    See my buddy has way bigger you know and i would rather get a Pickup like a Chevy or a F150 V8 Extended Crew cab all black the F150 was my first choice in car idk i just love the sound of that V8.
     
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    The 3.5l eco boost has twin turbo's. One is for lower end power, and one for higher rev power. There is no turbo lag at all like some might think. If you look at the hp and tq curves, it is very fat on that 3.5 TT. It makes 350 tq from 1500 rpm to over 5000 rpm. That's easily better than the 5.4 triton in a f150 or expedition.
    Here is a clip about the flex with ecoboost in regard to towing.
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    BOULDER, Colo., July 13, 2009 – The introduction of EcoBoost™ and Trailer Sway Control technology to the 2010 Ford Flex adds a new performance dimension to the full-size crossover – the ability to tow up to 4,500 pounds and to do it a notch above its V-8-powered competition.

    The 2010 Ford Flex is available with the twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 engine, which produces 355 horsepower at 5,700 rpm and 350 ft.-lb. of torque from 1,500 rpm to 5,250 rpm. And, Flex is the first and only full-size crossover to offer Trailer Sway Control, a technology that can help bring both the vehicle and trailer-in-tow under control if swaying occurs.

    “With the EcoBoost V-6 making a full 350 ft-lbs of torque by 1,500 rpm and having a flat torque curve past 5,000 rpm, the EcoBoost V-6 will have improved towing characteristics versus a naturally-aspirated V-8, and approaching diesel towing performance,” said Brett Hinds, Ford’s Advance Engine Design and Development manager.

    The twin turbochargers provide the flat torque curve at the wider engine speed range. For the customer, this ample amount of low-speed torque means their Flex with attached trailer will have great acceleration – even up hill – as well as passing power. When towing, it’s the torque that gets the vehicle moving – gets car, trailer and gear to the top of the mountain – while horsepower determines and maintains the speed.

    “It’s [torque] available when you pull away from a stoplight or pass someone on a secondary road,” added Hinds. “The drivability of EcoBoost will generate a lot more confidence in Flex – it goes where you want it to go.”

    Since EcoBoost runs an ideal air-fuel ratio to higher engine speeds and loads, real-world fuel economy is also often greater when compared to other engine technologies."

    The full article is here..
    ECOBOOST PLUS SEGMENT-EXCLUSIVE TRAILER SWAY TECHNOLOGY MAKES 2010 FORD FLEX TOPS IN TOWING | Ford Motor Company Newsroom

    This ecoboost tech is here to stay, and there are more ecoboosted fords coming out. Apparently GM is considering twin turboing their good 3.6 DOHC v6 to try to hop onto ford's wave.



    My Ski nautique weighs about 3500 lbs, and I have no worries of the ecoboost 3.5 having issues with towing it. My 200 hp 4.0 I 6 in my grand cherokee has a little trouble with it, but this jeep has a lot of miles on it, like 175k so it is getting tired. My 04 4runner with the v8 has no issues towing it with technically only 235 hp. The ecoboost flex has over 100 hp on the 4runner, and about 50 lb ft of tq on it too.

    With the new unibody explorer, I knew that they were going to be fwd, with AWD optional, but I was unaware that the sport trac was given a death notice. The first gen sport trac was based on the older explorer with a solid axle,a nd only went to the IRS explorer chassis for like 06 or 07, when that old explorer chassis was last used in 02. So they rolled the old chassis sport trac for a while until going to the IRS explorer chassis in 06 or so.
     
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