After tank move, problems....

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  1. Anthos312

    Anthos312 Millepora

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    thing is, there are only a few empty shells (mostly large cerith). There are a ton of dwarf ceriths ontop of the sand. I think im going to siphon out the top layer of sand with all that (diatoms, cyano, dinoflags, WHATEVER it is) stuff out. While at the same time doing a water change.

    Corals look even worse today...
     
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  3. Anthos312

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    WTF! So i bump my tank temperature up to 80 (was from 76). I did this because unfortunately it looks like my chromis, six line wrasse, and ocellaris (the only tank inhabitants) might have ICH. Just fantastic to add on to the other tank problems......

    Last night corals were a bit open and doing "okay". I come back home today at 6pm to find the tank sides covered in brown again and the corals looking like crap. I guess im going to have do another water change.......

    Heres a though, i lost a ricordea about last week in the rock work, do you think its rotting away without getting light and ruining the water quality????
     
  4. blackraven1425

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    Possibly. Also, raising the temperature will cause both corals and algae to grow faster.
     
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    i dont care if the corals grow faster, im aware it will cause more algae (if this even is algae, its like a mix between Diatoms and Cyanobacteria), but now my fish could be at harm if there is ich.
     
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    Bah, missed the giant ICH in your paragraph. You should turn down the temperature to combat it.
     
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    um, i read on multiple sources when battling ich you want a higher temperature in which the parasite cannot multiply...

    Also, i just did a huge water change and found not one, but Two ricordeas hiddin in the rock work and i also moved some rocks around for better flow to see if that helps....
     
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  9. blackraven1425

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    Oh no no no. You want a lower temperature.

    When you have no medication in the tank, and you're not running hyposalinity, raising the temperature allows the ich to multiply FASTER, but there's NTOHING keeping the parasites from getting to your fish. So you make an infection much worse when you raise the temp and there's no other treatment in place. Temperature alone doesn't kill ich.

    You DO want higher temperatures when you're running something that kills ich, like copper, because then you make its life cycle go faster. Copper can only kill ich during one of its life phases, the free swimming stage, so you want to get them there as quickly as possible.
     
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    but i cannot use copper if i have snails/inverts/corals correct?
     
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    correct
    Blackraven was just explaining that the high temp to take the parasite through its life cycle quicker was only useful if you where treating with meds

    dont add copper to your tank containing inverts and corals etc

    Steve
     
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  12. blackraven1425

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    Nope, you can't use formalin or hyposalinity either. You literally have no treatment options.

    Yep, and that it's actually harmful to have them go through that cycle quicker if there's no treatment, too.