angler in fuge?

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  1. hdog

    hdog Astrea Snail

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    So i finally ordered stuff for my first marine tank!
    I got a 50 gallon tall which measures 36x18x17tall and Im going to stock it with assorted scorpionfish.

    What i'm wondering, is if i get a large enough sump, (which i'm going to be making), could I possibly put an angler/frogfish in it. I want to add one to the display, but iv'e read that anglers eat everything that you would never think they would eat.

    Which anglers have you guys found to be the "best"?
    Wouldn't it be cool to get a sargassum angler and put a bunch or sargassum in the refugium?
     
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  3. 1.0reef

    1.0reef Giant Squid

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    Maybe a smaller angler like a wartskin, I've heard they do best in their own systems....
     
  4. Va Reef

    Va Reef Giant Squid

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    All anglers do best in their own systems...

    OP how big would the sump be? usually the smaller anglers (as 1.0 suggested) A. pictus, (painted) and A. maculatus (wartskin) would be your best bets. Both can be housed in a 20 gallon long (36"x12"x12").
     
  5. hdog

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    well i haven't gotten the tank yet, but ill make it as big as it needs to be. so maybe a 30 gal with a 20 gallon fuge?
    yes painted anglers (pictus) are my favorite.
     
  6. Va Reef

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    Gallons aren't so much to worry about, its more for the "footprint" of the tank. a 20 gallon with tall dimensions won't suit an angler, but a 20 gallon shallow or long style will provide enough room for the angler. Remember, anglers are bottom fish that don't swim unless they absolutely have to, so as I said before, tank volume (to a degree) isn't as important, so much as the actual footprint.

    20 gallon long would work, but bigger is always better haha
     
  7. hdog

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    ok cool
    thanks
     
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  9. Mr. Bill

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    Wouldn't a messy predator deter from the original intent of the fuge- to absorb nutrients produced in the DT? And is this going to be a display fuge?

    Personally, I would just set up a separate 20L for the angler, and let the fuge be a fuge for your 50g.

    JM2C
     
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  10. Va Reef

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    lol, I was so focused on answering the post I completely looked over that.

    Excellent point Mr. Bill, +K.
     
  11. hdog

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    ya well. im hoping to put macros in both the fuge and the tank itself. so i had the opportunit¥*to keep an angler and the scorps in the same system but separate. Just wondering if the angler could potentially hop over the walls and get into the skimmer portion.
     
  12. Greg@LionfishLair

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    Just to chime in...most preds are considered "messy" because they tear their food up and, well, make a mess (triggers, sharks, etc.).

    Fishes that swallow their food whole, such as angler, lionfishes, etc. aren't messy and actually aren't that hard on water quality because they're only fed a couple of times a week due to thier slow metabolisms. IMHO/IME "reef fishes" that require multiple, daily feedings are a lot harder on the water quality.

    As for putting an angler in your fuge, I wouldn't go any larger than a wartskin (Antennarius maculatus), and be sure to cover the tank, as they can, and will jump. Histrio histrio (Sargassum angler) is the most proficient jumper of them all as it's a natural behavior of theirs in the wild.

    HTH