atom smashing. god help us all

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  1. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    I wounder what size and how many batteries the beast requires ;D
     
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  3. PharmrJohn

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    Y'all wanna see something amusing. How 'bout the LHC rap yo. The Physics elite are about to get down. Oh yeah......can you say GEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YouTube - Large Hadron Rap
     
  4. JohnO

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    Always just one more than is in a packet :)

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  5. cuttingras

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    my question and I know that most(all) of this stuff is WAY over my head, but I gotta ask. If the "Big Bang Theory" happened the way they think it did and they are trying to recreate it, doesn't that mean that they WILL blow us all up? Why would they want to recreate this anyway? What will be the purpose? Another Big bang????????:confused:
     
  6. PharmrJohn

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    They are trying to create as much energy as they can in one place at one time, colliding protons in an effort to see if any other particles are created from the energy of the collision. More energy equals heavier particles produced from the explosion. The CERN facility was not able to generate enough energy to look for the Higgs guage boson. That is one of the big things that will hopefully come out of this experiment. The LHC will provide 7x the energy that CERN could. And while the big bang is a viable theory, there are problems with it, looking at the big bang from a perspective of one large explosion from a pinpoint of matter/antimatter. The horizon problem is the biggest I can think of (google it)

    Some have theorized that there is another universe only a millimeter away from ours. Very close. It is held away from ours by the repulsion of matter in both spaces. Once the universes have expanded to the point where matter is diluted (in trillions and trillions of years) the two universes touch and there is a 'Big Clap'. Same basic thing as the Big Bang. Lots of energy is created and settles out as matter/antimatter once again, repeating the cycle. I am a little rusty on that particular theory, but that is the jist. This theory takes care of the horizon problem.

    They are trying to resolve what started the universe as well as prove or disprove String Theory. This is a current hot topic in physics that is questioning the validity of particle physics, which has reigned supreme for many years. Both theories have holes that need to be filled in and the LHC will do it's part to help out.

    There are other things they are doing here in the next several years, on earth and especially in space. We are living in a really cool time. Our generation is going to see more than all others combined in terms of scientific advance.

    Just watch.
     
  7. Lucky13dt

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    +1 on that you typed it as I was thinking the same thing! ;)
     
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  9. cuttingras

    cuttingras Starving Artist :)

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    wow that was a whole bunch of stuff and the last sentence said it all, but I'd like to add, If we're all here still LOL
     
  10. Lucky13dt

    Lucky13dt Spaghetti Worm

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    John you have really got my wheels turning, I love this stuff...

    Ever since college I have had two questions, maybe you can help?

    1) What was there pre-Big-Bang?

    2) Where did it take place?

    Would love to hear your thoughts...;D
     
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    there going to rip a hole in the fabric of space :( and even if they dont we are all doomed when the universe stops expanding and begins to collaps on it's self in anothe 10 billion years. . . better get you bread and milk now!
     
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    1.) Not sure. Nobody knows. If there is no space to define and no time to define it in. then there is nothing......just a start. Now, we could have "bubbled" off another universe, say out of a black hole. Some say that the singularities within the black holes are entry points to other universes, actual starting points. But that singularity would have to be spinning and ring-like. A static singularity would not lead anywhere. Just annihilation. There are sooooo many ideas on the multiverse theory it makes my head spin. I am still trying to comprehend the basics. But mathmatically, it is certainly possible.

    2.) People have been trying to figure out where the Big Bang took place. We cannot. If you look at space in it's three dimensions and try to find the center, you will find that everywhere is the center. You are at the center of the universe. So am I. So is that dude on that planet in the Andromeda galaxy. The best analogy I can come up with here is two dimensional. Imagine you are in a two dimensional universe. It is represented by a round balloon. You are on a point on the surface of that balloon. If you were to measure yourself in any direction, you would find yourself at the center.....remember you can only go side to side, left to right, etc, but not up and down. Now look at Bob on the other side of the universe. In his perspective, he is at the center of the universe. It's all relative.

    Now, the horizon problem is the best way to explain why there is no apparent center of the universe with respect to everyone. If you look out into space with a very powerful telescope, you can see objects about 12 billion light years away. That light is 12 billion years old. It has been travelling the speed of light for 12 billion years and it is JUST NOW hitting your retina. How can that be? If the universe is 14 billion years old, that light would not have enough time to travel that far if we had an expansion from a point particle.

    Chew on that one for awhile.