atom smashing. god help us all

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  1. PharmrJohn

    PharmrJohn The Dude

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    They are talking about space being "pulled" (I don't have a good grasp on this one....I will have to find it and read it again). So what they are saying is that light is being pulled along with it but technically it never exceeds it's own speed. Something like that......a really lowsy expanation....on my part. And it still seemed like a bandaid approach. I just don't like the inflationary theory.

    The arguement that the speed of light not being constant has come in and out of the spotlight for about 100 years now. But who knows? It's all really heady stuff. Personally, I think the speed of light is constant and always has been.
     
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  3. {Nano}Reefer

    {Nano}Reefer Dragon Wrasse

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    fishtongue Astrea Snail

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    You are all worried about nothing. The experiment is meant to recreate similar conditions to the big bang much like your metal halides are recreating the intensity of the sun for your tank. Your halides can never become the sun just as this explosion (on the quantum level) can never become the big bang, or a small bang for that matter. The original big bang contained the entire mass of the universe, even if they somehow took the mass of our entire solar system and smashed it into another equally sized solar system it could not become anything compared to "the" big bang. (By the way that scenario is constantly happening and we don't have new universes popping up, although it would be cool.) Plus the idea that a black hole is a monster that will grow until it has nothing to eat is false, there are physical limits, even for black holes. The risk of black holes growing and sucking in Europe or letting in aliens is ridiculous. They last for a mere 100,000 billion billionths of a second and do not seem to have much impact on the matter around them. Atom-Smashing is furthering our understanding of where we came from and the way the universe works, that is all. The people who are in charge of the experiments are very educated and are not just going on a hunch. Uninformed journalists are just trying to scare people with the word "black hole" to get published. Don't believe everything you read, including this, do some research.
     
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  5. PharmrJohn

    PharmrJohn The Dude

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    You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Black holes and doomsday particles. Hogwash. We have the top theoretical physicists on site and studying this thing every day. Everyday for the last several years. The media is going to do their best to sensationalize this thing into the ground. And with the black hole thing. Black holes, even the big ones, evaporate, very slowly. That's what these are doing. They are just soooooo small that the evaporation is immediate. And you have to realize that most of space at that level is just that space, with incredible distances between atoms. What you see in our macro setting is really nothing more than an illusion. Things look solid because that is what our eyes are designed to pick up. In reality, there is much, much more space in space than matter. Much more. That is why a mini black hole would have difficulty grabbing hold of particles to make itself bigger and badder.
     
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    PharmrJohn The Dude

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    This is a good thread. I am enjoying this one immensely.
     
  7. Gresham

    Gresham Great Blue Whale

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    More of the "scare your pants off" type news we've been spoon fed for how many years now :)
     
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    {Nano}Reefer Dragon Wrasse

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    i think its in human nature to "enjoy" being scared a little bit here and there, heck thats what pumps in the adrenaline. i also believe the poeple who are really worrying about this all depends on the amount of anxiety they are experiancing with daily life, but i dont think its anything to worry too much about/ commit suicide over, although that is very tragic, the media wins again... i dont know if my understanding is correct, but i thnk the "media" feeds off of people like that girl killing herself so they have an excuse to get even more hyped up about whats happening.
     
  10. cuttingras

    cuttingras Starving Artist :)

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    but hey now....I thought the world was supposed to end on Y2K?????????? lmao
     
  11. {Nano}Reefer

    {Nano}Reefer Dragon Wrasse

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    haha i forgot about that!! i remember gas prices soared over the top when that was happening, my dad just drove right past the gas stations when he saw the prices, waited a couple days and they were back to normal :)
     
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    Jakerupe Skunk Shrimp

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    Nice to see that Swiss German engieering (probably every nations in on this) has the same problems as our US engineers at Chevy!

    Transformer glitch shuts down biggest atom smasher

    Sounds a lot like the problem in my $11,000 Blazer! ::) Just many less zeros! 2 to 4 degrees above absolute zero and it is running hot!!! That's like -275 degrees celsius brrrrrrrrrrr