Basement Sump

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  1. bluewhite4

    bluewhite4 Astrea Snail

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    We've officially completed the move to our new house, so its time to start setting up the new 210 gallon tank.

    We'd like to put our sump in the basement, so that its out of the way. Unfortuentely, this mean the return pump has to be able to get the water ~40 feet total back to the tank.

    We're looking at pond-size pumps, and wondering if anyone has any advice, or done anything like this.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. saltyfresh

    saltyfresh Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone

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    Look into reeflo pumps


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  4. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    The horizontal run does not matter much, it's the vertical height that reduces flow. The friction loss chart will guide you as to plumbing size. http://www.reeflopumps.com/images/tips.pdf

    I use a Reeflo Dart with 1-1/2" return plumbing and 190 gallons of sump in the basement.

    Also, if your basement is cold in the winter time, insulate the tank(s) to keep heat in.
     
  5. itsmesiva

    itsmesiva Plankton

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    I am also thinking the same way. Although mine is a 90G tank. I have the water prep station in the basement and sick and tired of carrying water up and down during regular water changes. How ever i am looking for a suitable pump that has a 300gph flow rate at 10' head. I assume it should be good for a 95G tank. the sump will be a 50G. I looked at Little giant pump but they are in line pumps. That forces me to drill the sump :(. Still looking for options. So any suggestions here will help 2 people :)
     
  6. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    A very important factor in choosing a pump for a basement sump is power consumption. When I upgraded to the Dart, the power used was just about cut in half with more flow from the pump. Make sure to look at the pumps power usage curve and determine what it is for your head height.
     
  7. m2434

    m2434 Giant Squid

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    The Iwaki aquarium pumps are very efficient, and reliable. For my application they were the most efficient. The length is less important, the height it the key. I am going up about 9.5 feet and pushing about 220-240gph, but only using 45 Watts.
     
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  9. itsmesiva

    itsmesiva Plankton

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    what the Iwaki model number that you are using? I am wishing i could get 300gph flowrate at 10' of head pressure.
     
  10. saltyfresh

    saltyfresh Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone

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    remember 90s are like 1 foot head but you may know that
     
  11. bluewhite4

    bluewhite4 Astrea Snail

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    Thanks everyone for the reply! So after doing some actual measuring, this is what I've got.

    13 feet of vertical, 30 feet of Horizontal, 1 T-Connection, and 6 90's.

    The tank is a 210gallon pre-drilled Aqueon. In my research I'm seeing that each of the two center MegaFlow units has a maximum output of 600 GPH, for a total output of 1200 GPH.

    My question I guess is, if horizontal height matters less, how much less? (Every 5 feet of horizontal is about equal to 1 foot of vertical? Or something like it.)
     
  12. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    You need to use a head loss calculator like this one. Head Loss