best skimmer for 350g sps tank

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  1. Notturnia

    Notturnia Bristle Worm

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    Hi ;D, it's me again ::)

    what is the best skimmer for a well populated (.. more then right) sps 350g (400-425g all system) tank..

    was thinking about

    Bubble King 300
    ETSS 1800 XL
    Precision Marine Bullet XL3 (1 injector allways on 1 only after feeding)
    Precision Marine Bullet XL2
    Euro-Reef RS500
    Octopus TDNW-300
    ReefFlo Orca 250
    Foaminator 5220 (1 beckett allways on 1 more after feeding only)

    tnx for an help
     
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  3. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    LOL define well populated ? it is populated with what ?

    But if you ever put a ETSS 1800 on it there will be nothing for the skimmer to do and as for the Precision Marine Bullet XL3 (1 injector allways on 1 only after feeding) LOL one injector is all you would ever need.. As for the euro reef R-S 500 and you mean the R-C 500 LOL yes will with any of these skimmer you have listed here for use on a 350 is like using a shot gun to kill house flies :) Like the ETSS 1800 that needs close to 2,000 GPH to shoot past the the injector to give it somthing to do .. It will lay flat on your tank more then it will be foaming..
     
  4. Notturnia

    Notturnia Bristle Worm

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    k so i explane :)

    the 350 g is the main tank.. there should be one more black-dsb (no light on it) and the sump.. os it should be around 400-420g in all the sys..

    well populated = i will put SPS and they will grow.. but my wife will buy and put fishes.. as she want them.. so if in a 350g tank we usually (we = european) put just 20-25 fishes (in a BB) we will have nearly twice.. or more.. like 50-55 fishes and we will use frozzen food to feed corals and fishes.. and frozen food usually makes much more pollutant than dry food.. as i learned in this years..

    so you think they are too big ?.. i thought to use them half powered (the 2 injectors) and use the second only after water change.. feed.. etc.. so i wont have troubles as the tank is in the office/kitchen wall and need to be crystal clear all the time for customers that will come here or if i have to do a dinner/lunch.. so a bigger skimmer was in my idea ... but i know.. too big is also a trouble.. but here we usually get it bigger and put in the tank what we loose in the skimmer..

    but i have open brain to learn from other ^^ so go on
     
  5. Tangster

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    As for the Bullet X-L series all I'd use would be a X-L 1 or a Bullet 3 both would run away with your 350 even if it where a salt swamp

    As for the ETSS Line a 900XR would do you well But if you want overkill and space permitting ? then a 1000 X-R would strip the salt from the water almost.

    The Euro R R-C 500 is not as strong of a skimmer and that would maybe be a little over the top but that would be my choice on a 350 well populated with fish and not corals..If you mean its populated with alot of corals ? then on a 350 I'd get a skimmer rated for 250 to 300 gallon system.. Why strip their water for needed nutruients and elements ? Sometimes less is more you can over skim a system to death..
     
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    Jason McKenzie Super Moderator

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    I run a BK 300ext on my 370G. I had a DIY becket on it before and have noticed a huge improvement in coral colour.

    J
     
  7. Notturnia

    Notturnia Bristle Worm

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    so bullet 3 or XL1...
    donno why but here in italy we usually overstimate skimmer.. so for a 500 liter tank we usually get a 1000 liter skimmer.. etc.. for a 1200 liter tank (like mine) they suggest me a 2500 liter skimmer.. this is why i thought about the XL2 or XL3.. they are 2x and 3x my tank.. like we are used here :D but maybe in USA the info about the skimmer water managed are a bit more realistic then here..

    we usually overskim to add again what we miss.. as we do 1 water change of 5% weekly or a 15% monthly.. and we add weekly what we remove (iodine, iron, etc etc..)

    different philosiphy i think.. but i suppose your works well too :D
     
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  9. Tangster

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    I my self have never did any water changes in over 30 yrs on tank that I have ran for over 10 yrs . I size my skimmer for the amount of water passing through the sump and its always worked .. If you think about it it can only skim what you have to skim and what water is avaliable to skim .. Thats why so many have issues with my skimmer is not foaming ?
    Nothing to foam I like mine to skim as neceassry and not rape the water of all the elements. But on a 350 say a ETSS 2500 would have nothing to do.. Now on a 3,000 gal heavy load commercial system then yes That's why I took the 2500 that I ran on a heavy loaded 750 reef with a few hundred different type of fish's and full of corals of different types I removed the 2500 ETSS and went doen to the ETSS 1500 and put the 2500 on the shops entire system with about 6,000 gallons and that includes the 2,500 gallon reef tank. Its still runs away with it . As for feeding corals .. Just stir the sumps every night.. Thats the best coral food you can feed and its just fish waste and left over bits of food they missed.. I'd get the Bullet 3 and Not the Bullet X-L if you went with the X-L then the 2 would be plenty..

    But thats just me and How I size them for myself and anyone I know. I always say when in Rome yadda yadda

    I have seen the bubble Kings and they rock just as Jason mentioned I just have never ran one on my systems But we have a client that runs a 500 gal with one he just added last yr it does a great job not sure of the size of it now ? He also changed buld and did not ask or tell us and lost his tank ): But that was 6 months or more after he changed the skimmer out. and with in a few days of the bulbs so the skimmer had little if anything to do with it..
     
  10. Notturnia

    Notturnia Bristle Worm

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    thought the X-L 3 (dual injector) so i can use it now in the 350g tank (it should be 350g tank + 100g sump + 50g refugium + some more in the skimmer and calc reactor tht are in a dedicate sump so nearly 500g of water and only 350 of tank) and use later when i will move the sys in the dining room where it will grow from 350g to 500g tank (+ 200g sump + 100g refugium)

    as i saw the difference between bullet 3-> XL1-2-3-4 are low.. i thought.. i buy one.. and i'm happy for enough time and no need to buy a second as i already have a second injector..

    the sump return pump should be 3x the sys so a 1500 gph at 6 feet high so i need a skimmer that can process 4500 gph .. or if was my thought.. all the water from the outlet (??) of the tank will go to the skimmer and from it to the sump and a % to the refugium then all back to the sump and so to ca reactor (+ KW when light of the main tank are off) to the carbo-filter and the rowa-filter and up again to the tank

    this way i try to have less water change the usually we do in europe.. from 10-15% a month to 10-15% every 2-3 months tnx to a supposed better water quality

    i will also have sys to put in water with doso-pumps all the spare-minerals corals will require and i cant put inside in the Mg-Ca reactor like iodine, etc..

    in the future i'll end my phyto-project to have fresh food every night for the corals.. and then i thought i will use the second injector (hope will be in the new tank)

    but i'm happy about your explanations.. as they are important for me