Can I add a wrasse with my fish load?

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  1. Peredhil

    Peredhil Giant Squid

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    i will never understand how folks can decipher emotions of fish. I guess it just means the fish isn't starving? I don't know. Is the criterion that it is simply still alive?

    I wonder if my fish are happy. I wonder if they get angry. Wait, no I don't. They're not and they don't.
     
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  3. FaceOfDeceit

    FaceOfDeceit Hockey Beard

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    Start poking one of em a lot...he'll get angry. ;)
     
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    xmetalfan99 Giant Squid

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    As far as the wrasse goes, I think it depends on the species you decide to get. Smaller wrasses will be fine, but larger ones may damper the quality of the water. However, you do 15% WCs weekly, have a skimmer, sump, and good flow. I don't think you will have any problems with adding a wrasse as long as it doesn't get huge.
     
  5. Steve34

    Steve34 Feather Star

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    Seriously? Is this really an issue to you?

    OK, The fish is active, good color, no obvious signs of sickness and no lethargy.
    Doesn't seem to have any labored breathing and is eating well but not so much that it seems to be starving. It is social with the other fish, not being picked on and not picking on anyone.

    If I had said the fish looks healthy and active would you have made an issue out of it?

    Of all the things you take exception to the fact that I summed up that I think the fish is doing well with that choice of words?
     
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    2in10 Super Moderator

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    My sixline was a model citizen when it was the last fish added.... but when I went to add another fish the mad dog came out.
     
  7. Peredhil

    Peredhil Giant Squid

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    No and yes. I specifically removed your name to say I was commenting on a broader observation on the forum. I used the word 'never' to illustrate this isn't the one and only time I have come across this. And put 'folks' in plural to infer you are not the only one making those types of statements.

    :)

    It wasn't really directed at you 'Steve' but at you '3reef'. I didn't mean to raise your ire. Sorry.
     
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  9. gabbagabbawill

    gabbagabbawill Pajama Cardinal

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    Well, fish can get stressed. We know this because they release a stress hormone. It is a biological process. Folks who keep fish as pets begin to recognize the symptoms of stress, and may begin to form cause/effect relationships for their fish's stress. I know that they may not be "happy" as in being emotionally elated. But I think that the term "happy" can be applied to fish that are "not showing symptoms of stress". Most of the time, when fish are not showing signs of stress, they act normal as they would in the wild, so maybe we think of this as them being "happy".

    I don't want to sound like too much of a goof, but I don't see anything wrong with someone seeing their fish as happy. :D
     
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  10. Steve34

    Steve34 Feather Star

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    No harm, sorry I came back at you so hot.
     
  11. Claic Yuzolt

    Claic Yuzolt Bubble Tip Anemone

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    What about a sand sifting Goby?
     
  12. Peredhil

    Peredhil Giant Squid

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    I do. Because I most often hear this in this context:

    them: I have a tang in a 2 gallon tank.
    me: You shouldn't do that, that will stress the fish to know end
    them: it appears happy


    "happy" so doesn't apply to a fish. It makes it entirely subjective. Making it a useless descriptor. I see it the same as when folks say something like

    them: my tank is doing terrible, what is wrong?
    me: what are your params?
    them: my params are fine

    Fine? What does fine mean? Same thing as "happy"?

    Get my point?

    Your interpretation of emotions in a fish don't tell me anything. It is not helpful.
     
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