Can you have too much filtration??

Discussion in 'Filters, Pumps, etc..' started by sauce-n-tank, Jul 9, 2008.

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  1. sauce-n-tank

    sauce-n-tank Feather Duster

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    Hey guys i have a couple questions..i have a 30gal with two hang on wet dry filters and a wet dry surface skimmer is this too much filtration and does this affect my "colalizing"??
     
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  3. paulg

    paulg Feather Duster

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    I wouldnt say so, whats in the tank?
     
  4. Jason McKenzie

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    It really depends on what you want to keep in the tank.
    But personally I would just use live rock and a good skimmer.
    But I know a lot of the time in a tank your size that is hard to do. (get a good skimmer)
    But still 3 hang on filters shouldn't be required.

    J
     
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    R34dawn Ocellaris Clown

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    +1 three filter are a little over killed, perhaps after a few months of the tank up and running you can get shed of 1 or 2 in my opinion.
     
  6. sauce-n-tank

    sauce-n-tank Feather Duster

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    ok well i have about three small fish a couple larger fish with a cleaning crew. and i run a few coral and anemome but it helps the water stay real clear but what do you guys suggest??
     
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  7. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    I'd agree with the post by Jason I don't see the need fr all that myself and I like him also just rely on a good skimmer and rocks I do use a little passive carbon and floss sometimes under the skimmer outlet. I would think you'd be better off with a single filter and more internal water movement to allow the one filter to collect the solids from the water column ..
     
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  9. wildreef

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    Like Jason said depends on what ya wanna keep really.

    Those peeps that want to keep nothing more than softies and some fish can allow their water to build nitrates and you dont have to filter as much as you would if some one wanting to keep all those nice neat acro's.
    Those peeps who keep acro tanks or those arcros that demand high water quaility i would think would be anal about filtering.

    But with that said I like "over kill" on filtering , if your gonna have sevral fish and have long term success at it , It's best to keep your water as clean as you can.

    And smaller tanks can go sour much more quickly than a larger tank.
     
  10. Tangster

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    I would totaly 100% disagree with this statement , You should not have Nitrates in any reef tank or you will have a problem somewhere sooner or later.. Nitrates should be Kept as close to 0.0 as can be done , Also where we should strive to hold them at. if you test and can see them on the average aquarium test kit then you have more then what you want or need .

    This also is where so many run into issues with a simple Fish tank and or fish disease Tthese fish can and do adapt some not all and any think I ever had to get NO3's the tangs would show signs of ich . Many more delicate fish will die. As well many of the hard corals Nitrates need to be kept at undetectable levels all the time as well as Phospahtes .

    I keep my PO4 and NO3 at 0.00 and would tell anyone else to do the same,
     
  11. wildreef

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    1,Nitrates are no good for nothing ? not to be consumed by any living thing in an ocean ?

    2, If you hold all of your water parameters like nitrate,phos,etc. @0.0 ?
    How is that your 180 is out of (or currently) still in LHA,bryposis,etc.
    (algae none the less) over whelmed the tank ?.
    When ya had loaded to the gills with every known coral.

    3, You read into my post wrong , most tanks will do just fine if some nitrates do build up , such as alot of softies, acro's on the other hand are more finicky about poor water quaility and thus "nitrates" or phos should be avoided if at all possible and kept to 0.0 /.
    a tank with say 10/20 of nitrates is not perfect by no means , but it is survivible with most softies.
    while acro's on the other hand dont do very well at all with detectible nitrates (if they do surrvive with readible nitrates ) their growth is useualy very slow.
     
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  12. sauce-n-tank

    sauce-n-tank Feather Duster

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    wow ok.. well as far as nitrate i always have nitrate could that be the cause??