Carbon dosing - method testing started

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  1. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    good suggestion lukabrasi
    might be worth a head to head in future
    Vodka and MB7 (available to me here)
    Vodka alone
    Bio fuel MB7
    Bio fuel alone

    that would be interesting to see if there was or was not a signifcant difference between using or not using bacteria supplements

    some are very keen on using bacteria in combo with carbon source
    others believe their systems accomodate enough bacteria already and as such do not foresee a need for adding it

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    the above images taken on 21st

    these next 4 captured this morning

    Tank 1 GFO
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    Tank 2 - Vodka
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    Tank 3 - Bio fuel
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    Tank 4 - Bio Pellets
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    front glass only credit card wiped prior to image capture
    not sure if the images will show this properly but hopefully you can see the difference

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    It looks to me like vodka is kicking butt, Steve.

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    never tried anything but VSV and seems like I made a right choice

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    It would seem based on the speed in which algae is re colonising the cleaned surfaces that Vodka at present it keeping the free nutrients lowest
    followed closely by GFO and the Bio Fuel maintained set ups ( hard to say exactly which of these 2 is 2nd cleanest at this point, a few more days may make the picture clearer)
    the tank currently being run using pellets does not yet seem to have kicked into action
    having said that

    the life of a reef tank is a marathon and not a sprint
    and as such seeing where we are in a couple of months time, once corals are established in there, may change the picture totally

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    Not a vodka doser here, but I must say, that's impressive so far. With all the money I've spent on pellets and reactors and GFO, I'm kinda excited that a cheaper way might win.

    But like Steve said, it's a marathon, and I'm curious to see who will win in the long run.
     
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    Thank you thebanker

    credit to m2434 for helping with the following idea
    My original plan to find 4 very similar Wellso, or Acans etc LPS corals
    then placing 1 of each into these 4 set ups, is flawed
    m2434 pointed out that as these would be independant corals, their previous location, life history and general well being may be different
    as such judging the reactions of 4 potentially non connected corals (NB Acans may have come from same mother but you would not know for certain) would not be as good a guideline as say 4 x SPS frags from the mother colony in my reef tank

    therefore
    my 1st LPS corals in these set ups will be frags of torch corals, from the same mother colony
    I purchased 3 torch corals, currently residing in my reef set up
    and each torch coral has at least 4 heads

    these will each be divided by 4
    and 1 from each mother will be located into each tank

    I intend for example to put
    all the frags from mother colony 1 on the left of each of the 4 tanks
    all the frags from mother colony 2 in the middle of each of the 4 tanks
    all the frags from mother colony 3 on the right of each of the 4 tanks

    that way we will be able to observe 1 frag from all 3 mothers in all 4 set ups and all in same location in terms of light, flow etc (within reason)

    this way if any frags do particularly badly in 1 of the set ups
    whilst the frags from same mother do OK in the other 3

    we should then be able to cite the carbon dosing method in that particular tank was the issue, rather than the coral itself


    Dremmel with cutting wheel attachments ordered and should be with me Friday


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    malac0da13 Torch Coral

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    There is no concern about the end tanks having less light is there? The tanks look like similar light but just curious.

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    A little yes, without doubt
    they are 4ft tubes and the last couple of cm on each end, will be lower output
    but its a 6 lamp canopy so the difference should not be significant

    pcarrol mentioned this earlier in the thread
    and I considered it before replying

    "when I repeat the test, I will change the order, so that the GFO and Bio Pelllets look after middle two tanks and Vodka, Bio fuel, look after the ones on either end"

    that way we should know, if light was a significant factor in these test 1st time around

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    malac0da13 Torch Coral

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    Ah ok. I guess if the tanks seemed pretty similar before adding anything there shouldn't be much of a difference I guess and the los shouldn't be needing that much light anyway.

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