Caribbean Mantis ID help

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  1. =Jwin=

    =Jwin= Tassled File Fish

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    Hello ladies and gentleladies, as alot of you know, I got a new little mantis. Well, it's bugging the poo poo out of me not having a positive ID on him, but I think he's too small to get a good ID (less than 3/4" long), so if someone can provide a list of mantis that are known to be a mottled brown and white color all over, and can be found in Florida Live Rock, that'd be great. I tried Roy's list, and didn't get much out of it. Maybe I can ID the guy through process of elimination. We think he's an Odontodactylus havanensis, but we can't see the characteristic red mark on his face thingies yet, because I think he might be too small for it.

    Here's the thread where you can find pics and further description if you want to.
    http://www.3reef.com/forums/inverts/jwins-new-mantis-81325.html
     
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  3. NeighborTomita

    NeighborTomita Banned

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    I have no idea, but if I remember tomorrow I will bump this one up if no one responds. How is it adjusting so far?
     
  4. =Jwin=

    =Jwin= Tassled File Fish

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    He's just a busy litte bee :D He appears to be not shy at all, and he's getting along with Orca his damsel buddy. He spent today digging new tunnels and moving small rubble bits around to plug holes and stuff.
     
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  6. Triplemom

    Triplemom Pajama Cardinal

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    Pictures of the new mantis and Orca, the damsel. I doubt these help much with ID - I was happy to just get some pictures! :)

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  7. Triplemom

    Triplemom Pajama Cardinal

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    He really blends in with the rock work - if you can't find him, he's perched right on top of the PVC pipe.
     
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  9. divott

    divott Giant Squid

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    gives a good comparison size when compared to orca. but he looks like a happy little fella? very cool lookin too. and is jwin using his in depth, full of detail schematics on sexing a shrimp? :)
     
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    "It" seems to be pretty active. I'm sure Jwin will be trying to figure out if it's a he or a she - might take a magnifying glass, though. ;)
     
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    trying to figure out if it's a he or a she - might take a magnifying glass, though. ;)[/QUOTE]

    i think theres something there , but im not touching this quote. :)
     
  12. stepho

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    Jwin- I don't think it is an O. havanensis. On this picture http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthro...alacostraca/royslist/images/o_havanensis3.jpg the meral spot doesn't look as noticeable as your mantis's http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/J_Win/mantis1.jpg

    If you get some good pictures I can stop by the local college they have a book on stomatopods from the area I can look at. You might be able to find the book locally as well.

    It is Stomatopod Crustacea of the western Atlantic by Raymound B. Manning 0870240897 It was published in 1969 and is out of print now. The cheapest I have been able to find a copy is $60. Unfortunately the book is very dated but it is the best resource book on stomatopods of the area.