Closed loop plumbing

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  1. ZachB

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    I'm getting all the plumbing supplies together for the closed loop on my 75g. Should I use 3/4" or 1" PVC / bulkheads for the returns? Should I have the pump intake slightly larger than the return? In other words, if the return is 3/4" should I have the intake 1"

    Also, what would be a good location for the intake - I want to hide the intake the best I can without having it in an area where it can pull sand, and since it's going to be running around 2,600 gph I don't want any livestock going into the pump. What would be the best strainer that will be able to feed the pump yet prevent any livestock from getting stuck?
     
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    if you use larger pipe1" for return it will not creat such a suction in tank and if you use 3/4 for the return you will make the pump work harder to put the water pulled by the 1" supply. FRom all the plumbing I have seen all the piping to and from pump is the same size.
     
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    Kind of what I thought, but the pump has a 2" intake and 1.5" return - both of which need scaled down, but why would it have a larger intake than return?
     
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    Why not plumb it to the size of the pump then it would not give as much back pressure if you did not reduce it that is a big pump 2600gph. You might need a bigger supply as 1" may be small for that much flow.
     
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    1.5" intake, 1" return maybe?
     
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    What pump are you putting on this 75g? Is it a Dolphin??? Larger intake will not matter anything but smaller will restrict the pump and probably cause it to overheat. I would take the return and run it to a manifold and use it to run reactors and extra equipment instead of just dialing it down 1/2".
     
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    Why such a big pump for a 75 g? do you have it also if so you could use a manifold and use it to to feed all your other stuff reactor,refugium,skimmer, ect.
     
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    Reeflo Dart, 3600 GPH. It is more flow than what is needed, but will use a ball valve to slow the flow down to about 2600GPH. It will be only used for the 4 way closed loop. I will be using no internal powerheads, just the 4 way closed loop (1 return per corner with diffusers) and 600 gph sump return for flow accelerator.

    Becuase I will be using no powerheads and want to use a closed loop for flow. I dislike cords and powerheads inside the tank, plus they can increase water temp, even if slightly.

    2600gph, 4 returns, about 650gph per return. Plus 600GPH from sump return = 42.6x turnover for tank. With the larger pump I can increase flow to all 4 corners as needed to increase flow if needed.
     
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    You talking a Ocean Motion valve or something you are creating?? I would run 1.5" to a manifold then add all the ports from there with valves on each.
    This is what I done with my HammerHead to get use out of all the gph it has. That manifold is a 2" in and 6 x 1" out

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    No ocean motions. I figure splitting the flow 4 ways will be about the same as 4 powerheads (which, is what I would use if I wasn't doing this, and would have cords hanging in the tank which just annoy me).

    What would you recommend for a manifold? Any links? What I could do is have the return come out as 1.5 inch then reduce each return down to 1"?

    Just saw the image, sorry - Where did you get the PVC that split 6 ways? Saw nothing like that at Lowes. I would just need 4 way.