C'mon... are you serious?

Discussion in 'General Reef Topics' started by reefchaos, Jul 6, 2009.

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  1. stepho

    stepho Panda Puffer

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    lol yeast you should do lol
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  3. surfnthreef

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    A simple ten dollar hydrometer does the trick and saves you the lick!
     
  4. greysoul

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  5. Bruce

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  6. ReefSparky

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    This is what I'm talking about when I refer to misinformation on the boards lately. bsweezy, I'm not picking on you, so please don't take offense here. What you link is not "good info on trace elements from a study on salt mixes. . . " It's one company advertising its own product by bashing nearly every single other manufacturer of salt out there. It states directly that each manufacturer has been lying about the composition of its salts. One is in pretty bad shape if after reading these claims, now thinks: "gee, finally a company I can trust. They know that everyone else is lying, and they're clearly the only ones telling the truth. . . "

    In general--take all information you read out there with a grain of salt. No pun intended here. :) ALWAYS consider the motives of those writing the literature you read. If it's Randy Holmes Farley, who's a scientist with great knowledge in water chemistry, then you can probably trust what he says. If it's a vendor, saying their product is the best--well, OF COURSE they're going to say their product is the best, aren't they? If it's a poster on 3reef, look to see how much time they have in the hobby, and although # of posts or karma isn't really valid, since they might be new to 3reef, but not new to reefkeeping--pay attention to how they express themselves.

    And I'm not talking about the ability to write like Hemmingway. I'm talking about the "attitude" that speaks through their words. Generally; those who speak in absolutes, and frequently throw around words like "always, never, best, worst," etc. are less likely inclined to know what of what they speak, than those who don't. Those who frequently argue with others, likewise--but that's common sense.

    In my opinion, a good way to learn is to ask many questions, get many answers, and take from it what YOU feel is valid information. Then ask more questions. :)

    Sorry for the rant. No ill feelings meant towards anyone. :)
     
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  7. greysoul

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    Among the millions, possibly billions, of bacteria found on Earth very few are found in sea water. Even fewer still can have any affect on a human host with a healthy immune system. Of those that can fewer still will have any adverse affect.

    I would be willing to bet that your toothbrush, hand towels, keyboard/mouse, steering wheel, pens, etc harbor more nasty bacteria than a drop of freshly mixed salt water. Heck, dipping your finger in the water probably puts more bacteria in the water than vise-versa.

    As for packets if bacteria in a tub of salt mix... probably just cross product promotion of some kind. I'm pretty sure you could toss it and be just fine.

    Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that there are certain bacteria that can not only live in, but thrive in a concentrated salt solution. Not all life needs water, or oxygen for that matter. Extremeophiles are a classification of bacteria and other organisms that can survive in conditions we once thought impossible. A good example would be the life forms that live in and around black steamer vents in the deep ocean. Bacteria have been found in Arctic ice, solid rock, extremely acid and basic geothermal vents and springs, possibly even rock samples from Mars. Bacteria, and more so, prions, can survive near absolute-zero freezing and temperatures in excess of 500 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So yeah, I have no doubt there is in the world some kind of bacteria that could live in salt mixes.... but I'm also pretty sure they're not commonly found in the labs that manufacture sea salt mixes for us. And if they are there's such a miniscule chance they would have any affect on a human that it's really not something worth thinking about, let alone worrying about. But here I go... thinking about it.


    and yes. I am serious.

    If nothing else at yeast this thread has resulted in some good humor.

    -Doug
     
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  9. PackLeader

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    LMAO. This EXACT episode was on last night. One of the best. And PERFECT timing.
     
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    Just do like Steve O'shea and taste it.