Coldwater Marine Aquarium Build

Discussion in 'Show Off Your Fish Tanks!' started by Boywithafishtan, Nov 17, 2013.

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  1. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    And let me get this clear. I did NOT just walk around and watch the fish. No no no. I worked like a normal worker out there would. I fed all the tanks every day, maintained them, researched about different species, got some advice from Bjørn and worked with a marine biologist, aswell as quarantine some of the fish out there. It was actually really hard, because there was lots of tanks to care for. I learned a ton. Like more than you could imagine. Bjørn literally knew EVERYTHING about almost any animal on this planet (I think he is autistic). I even fed cuttlefish, and fed some of the quarantine tanks, which they said they've NEVER allowed any practical workers ever before, but they said that they knew that i know what i'm doing, so i could go ahead and feed them. It was NOT just looking around at the fish at all, it was caring for them constantly. So. Yes. I did learn alot. I know quite alot about the North Sea now :) Its awesome.
     
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  3. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Yeah, i'll get a big tank for sure :)
     
  4. SnooknRedz

    SnooknRedz Vlamingii Tang

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    Sounds like a neat idea! Good luck with it buddy, hopefully you can find a way to obtain your desired stocking list, as well as a tank large enough for em!

    Just curious, what temperature must this aquarium be maintained at? I live in Florida. Cold water reefs aren't so common this close to the equator so I'm clueless. Also what specific gravity will be maintained throughout the system? Gracias señor. (Do they speak Spanish in Denmark much? Lol)
     
  5. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Thanks man! Yup, i'm definitely gonna go with a big tank, or a 100g or so viviparous blenny tank or something like that. The temperature should be kept as low as 53 degrees fahrenheit, now it also depends on the species that i'm going to keep, because some of them thrive at deeper waters, and the North Seas deep waters, that is freaking COOOOLD! Thats also where you'll find alot of creepy animals, more creepy than Australias wildlife, haha :D But about 14 degrees at average. The specific gravity should be around 1.026 - 1.027. For the species i'm going to keep, its probably going to be 1.026, where as if i got some deepwater hard to keep species, it might have been as salty as 1.029 or something. Haha, yeah we do speak spanish, alot of danish students learns spanish, german and english :)
     
  6. Va Reef

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    You should restate your original post saying this. You simply can't put the other fish in a 150g tank. Though here you are proving my point, that no matter what we say, you're always "right."

    I do have to ask, do you actually care about the fish you keep?

    http://www.3reef.com/forums/general...mation-based-my-experience-only-148300-6.html Post #54
    Unless you lost 2 fish due to your acclimation method?

    FWIW I keep 1 fish in my 14 gal, I don't see how an extra 6 gallons can comfortably house an extra 4-6 fish.
    I worked at The Virginia Aquarium and Marine Science Center for 3.5 years, and I still wouldn't feel comfortable keeping the fish and animals that are kept there, regardless of budget. (Yes they have Coldwater species, some of which you listed.)

    I guess what's bugging me is that
    a) you've been in this hobby for 10 months and make claims that shouldn't be made at your level,

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    b) you've been "working" at an Oceanarium for a week, and you can honestly say you feel comfortable taking care of their fish without any prior experience?

    I'm not saying I know everything, etc, I still consider myself a noob, with 3 years into this hobby. I understand you're excited about the hobby, but you really need to make sure you know what you're talking about.

    And take into consideration that the fish didn't ask to be put into our tanks, so isn't it fair to at least try to make them as comfortable as we know?
     
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  7. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Yes, i agree which is why im only gonna keep crabs, blennies and a lemon sole. These fish are all smaller fish, that are either inactive, or doesnt need alot of space. This way i wont have problems with territory. These fish can be hold in a 90g tank with no problems. I didnt lose them due to the acclimation method, but the first fish i got was a blenny and he jumped out of my tank, and my dottyback died after him being 4 months in my tank, that has nothing to do with the acclimation process. Additionally, i'm not saying i feel "comfortable" about all the fish they have out there, i've not even said anything close to that. But these species are some that are easy to care for, hardy, and can do well and will be happy in aquariums. So, stop judging so much. I will make the aquarium as natural as possible with natural rocks, seaweed and lots of hiding places. So dont think that i'm not doing this the right way. Even though i've been in this hobby for 10 months, doesnt mean that i can try out new things. You wont learn ANYTHING by doing the same thing over and over, you learn by expanding and expanding. Then it doesnt matter how long you've had saltwater. I've had other fish for a long time too, so i'm not just new to this. I might even get water from the ocean to start with, and then work my way over to acclimating them to normal water. They're used to being in natural ocean water in the oceanarium, but as far as they told me, they had quarantine systems with saltwater they've mixed by themselves, but it was easier and cheaper to just pump up some water directly from the North Sea. You can learn alot in a week, especially when i researched so much. So dont worry, i know what i'm doing, and there is no reason to worry. I wont keep a big fish in a small tank, chill out. If i make claims that shouldnt be claimed at my level, isnt that only good? If i get more and more knowledge, then how is it a problem? I really cant see that. I consider myself a noob aswell, which is why i wanna advance and be more experienced. I'm not always "right" i'm just saying what i know, and what they are telling me out at the oceanarium. For this subject, i know alot. In biology for 3 years, we've been working with seas around Denmark, and we have even looked and researched about some of the fish around the area. So its not only 1 week, additionally our biology teacher is a fisher, and he often goes out to the North Sea to catch some big fish. He knows EVERYTHING about them :) What i'm saying, is that you have no reason to worry, these fish will have a good life, in a natural environment. As far as the stocking goes in my reef, there are no problems detected, so cant see whats wrong for now. If it tilts slowly, of course i'm gonna get rid of some of them, and sell them to someone else. Its just that simple. OF COURSE I CARE ABOUT THE FISH I KEEP. Dude, that is just a weird question. Of course i do. More than anything. And if i know they're doing good, i'm happy. I would never dream of doing animal cruelty for no reason. If i put an animal into my home, i have the responsibility to do what is best for them. I'm an animal person, have growed up with animals all my life. But that does not mean that trying something different is cruel. As long as you follow some of the basic requirements for the fish etc... Also, i dont only make this aquarium because its cheap, but because i think its unique having a native aquarium, if you understand what i mean? I know mostly about tropic regions of the world, then why not learn something about my area? I just said it was cheaper. So, this is my passion, this is what i wanna do, and i think its fun. So, dont worry! No reason for that!
     
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  9. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    An update has come up on the topic, where i've listed some species of seaweed i might keep and the stocking ideas for now. Keep those suggestions and ideas coming, would love to get your ideas :) Thanks guys!
     
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    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    As what you said about restating one of my statements, i'm not sure what you mean and sorry for that but english is not my primary language. I might have said it a wrong way, so you guys have misunderstood it or something, but thats not what i meant. I just said what i was thinking??
     
  11. Va Reef

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    Must we continue? (Don't answer that please)

    EDIT: About restating, I mean changing your first post to talking about the blennies and seastars and crabs. not the other fish as it wouldn't be fair for you to try to keep them in a 75-150g tank.
     
  12. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Okay, first of all my first fish was a blenny, no other fish was in the system, but i didnt have a cover and it jumped out, has nothing to do with overstocking. I didnt kill 11 fish, but i've had fish that died due to parasites and diseases from a specific store that i'm never gonna visit again, but hey we all need to know where to get our fish from. Other than that i've changed the topic already, as an update. I like to keep it going throughout the process of the planning, so that people can see what i've planned so far. Also, i'm not saying i'm starting this tank now, i'm saying that i'm setting it up in the near future, and thats why i'm planning ahead, to make sure everything will be okay. But there is no reason to be negative about it, because the animals will be fine. I wont overstock it, i've already said that i would keep myself to blennies, crabs and seastars and its in the update in the topic, you can go see some different species of seaweed i can collect too. There is no reason to worry about the animals, they'll be fine. Just because i've had bad success in the start of the hobby, doesnt mean this will. My reef tank is working now, no problems, everything is thriving, all the corals are doing fine, my torch is by the way recovering very well, as well as that the fish are doing absolutely beautifully, lots of coloration, lots of activity, and no aggression levels. But as i said, that is why im gonna do my research before i get the tank, and thats what i'm doing right now. No reason to be negative :) I'm just researching, which is why i seek advice or feedback from you guys. Yours is? To not overstock? Okay, i'm gonna take your advice, and take it as positive feedback. No reason to discuss a topic, that hasnt even really "started" yet. Again, there is no reason to worry about the animals, they'll be fine. Other than that, do you know that flounder actually doesnt need a very big tank? They are very inactive fish.