Crying Kids in Restaurants

I have raised my kids and now have 5 grandchildren, so............
you are correct newborns can not be disciplined,
1) 11pm is way too late to be feeding kids.
2) Adults should be more considerate of others when dealing with a crying child.
3) Discipline is only done at home, unless absolutely necessary.
and most important,
4) If you discipline your kids at home, they will be well behaved in public.

 

next time you have guys waiting for you in the parking lot use any number of theses moves;D

YouTube - OUT FOR JUSTICE (1991): Steven Seagal's Pool Hall Brawl

 

I'm a firm believer that sometimes a spanking is nessesary.
When I was little it wasn't unusual to spank your kid with a belt, shoe, etc... ( at least in Mexico)
Even teachers would spank you if you acted up.

Kids this days are getting more and more irresponsible and rude simply because parents fail to discipline them correctly.
Grounding a child or taking away their allowance doesn't always work.
Thats just my opinion.

 

You and reefmonkey both have really good points,no offence,but i have to side RM,cause,as a father of 3, when you have a little one acting up in the store,resurant,etc,you just can't give them an attitude adjustment anymore like my parents was able to.And let me tell you,my mother didn't care where we was,Bam!You had a fat lip b4 you even knew why you got one.But now,in her shoes,i look back and don't consider it abusive.We didn't get beaten,but it more more of a tough love type thing,she just wouldn't tolerate acting up in public.But there is a fine line between correcting and abusing.I do agree that people now a days let there kids run wild and it is ridiculous.But on the other hand,it's tougher these days to keep a unruley child under control without getting yourself in trouble.I don't believe in hitting a child(nor am i implying that you do)but i do believe thats a large problem now,and why kids are like they are,as just about every kid out there deserves a swat on the butt once in a while.Even i need a spankin once in a while ;D

 

i used to know everything about raising kids.
then i had a few.
now i know i know nothing...

 

I think thats what i was trying to say,i just used a bunch more words!;D

 

I agree with xmetalfan99. I know that babies will cry and there's nothing you can do about it, but sometimes some children will bother other people and their parents won't do a thing about it. I fly often, in an airplane of course, and on many occasions I've had the seat in front of the kid that won't sit still. The kid will yell and kick the seats in front of him, while the parent is sitting right next to him.

 

amen to that. I have two kids. A two month old and a Two year old.

1) 11pm is late to the majority of the population. These days are tough and parents don't necessarily have normal 9-5 jobs all the time. Family time should be taken whenever possible. Families have a right to leave the house with their children.

2) Now, why should a family have to find a baby sitter every time they go out? who knows, maybe you encountered them the ONE time out of TEN they did take the kids instead of having a babysitter. Kids should be socialized young to help prevent becoming socially inept.

3) The mother had no right to put the baby in your girlfriends ear. From experience, the baby was fussy probably because she was full of gas. She was on the mothers shoulder probably so she can pat her back and release the gas so baby will be happy again. She probably didn't realize that your girlfriends ear was right next to the baby's crying mouth. IF she did it on purpose then shame on her but why would she?

4) Disciplining your children in public is not something I practice. I am a firm believer in "Praise in Public, Punish in Private". Children who are disciplined in public may use trouble to get attention when they want it. Children don't know the difference between bad attention and good attention. You didn't make any mention of how the 5 year old was behaving so I assume you forgot to mention how the 5 year old was misbehaving. IF you were referring to disciplining the newborn you can't.

5) Based on your comments and your experience I would assume you come from a small family without a lot of children such as one or two kids. It's safe to say that your ignorance may be to blame. I'm saying that in the most respectful way possible and in no means am I trying to insult you but I'm just saying that the OP didn't know any better.

6) My two year old is an angel but wasn't always one. It took a lot of work. Working parents don't always have the time to discipline and babysitters are afraid to discipline because of the laws these days. Please forgive parents that aren't as lucky as others or hard working parents trying to raise their children right. It's difficult to say whether or not there is a right way or wrong way just an end result.

My peace of mind. AGain, sorry if I offended anyone.

 

Spanking issue aside (I would have grown up a lot more responsible and obedient if my mom believed in a good whoopin' as my grandmother did) The good thing about being parents is there are two, hopefully together. My wife's parents didn't take them out to eat in public until they were responsible enough to behave in public. If there was a rare meltdown, one parent would take them to the car, and then wait for their turn to eat, or just have it boxed up and take it home.
Does this kinda stink for the parents? Of course! However, you decided to have children and need to shoulder the responsibility of being a parent. If you want to live in the sticks and have your kids act like the raccoons that raised them, GREAT! But don't force it upon other people.
I guess I'm lucky where I live that most people do take care of their kid's outbursts (except my sister in law :-/ ) but this is still a big issue for me. Its just not corporal punishment that's no longer in style, it's common decency.

 

Not only is parenting different, but there seems to be a movement towards a drastic lack of consideration for others in general--it's evident in situations from driving, to sitting in movie theatres, to walking in malls, to inside classrooms.

I've grown to the opinion that when scenarios like this arise, the best course of action is to remove yourself from the situation. Ask to be moved. This way the problem is solved, the family with the "offending" child isn't made to feel bad, and what was stressful, instantly becomes a non-issue.

When I was in my 20's I was indestructible, full of myself, and absolutely never wrong. Now that I'm older, I choose not to engage folks. Things get ugly fast. It's 2010 and if memory serves, the world's population is about 6.5 billion. By 2040 it's going to be about 9 million. Sad to say, but I don't see the situation getting better.

Used to be a place or two you could go where you'd never see another human being. Now there's not a place you can go where there's not trash or some evidence of people. Times are changing and with these times--people seem to think that they're more entitled to dictate whatever situation they like, and impose it on others.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, the evolution seems to be moving away from "for others," to "I'm gonna get mine--at your expense." Of course this is the exception rather than the rule, but the uncomfortable or awkward scenario which was an isolated event 20 years ago, seems to be a common one nowadays.