Dead Tiggerpods

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  1. Elebriend

    Elebriend Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    RESPECT PACK LEADER"S AUTHORITA!!!! Hehe just kidding.
     
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  3. seafarm

    seafarm Plankton

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    Hi Adam,

    Tigger-Pods bottle do not have an expiration date on them, they have a “bottled-on” date. If you have a bottle that has an expiration date, it was made by somebody making an illegal copy of our trademarked product.

    Hi Infamous,

    If you are getting “Real” Tigger-Pods® from Reef Nutrition, there will be somewhere between 2,000 to 4,000 pods in a 6 oz bottle. Many of them will be larvae and not visible to the naked eye, but you will easily be able to see at least 500-1,000.

    Hi PackLeader,

    I’m sorry you have received poor information about the culturing conditions of the Tigriopus californicus copepod. Although the ocean water in California is relatively cool, these copepods do not live in the open ocean, they live the shallow splash pools above the tide pools. When the tide is very high the waves can get up into the splash pools and the temperature might briefly drop to 50 F, but during the day the splash pool temperatures can reach as high as 100 F. This is the environment they thrive in :)

    Here are some non-vendor links regarding the culturing of Tigriopus californicus that show they live well in high temperatures:

    Tigriopus californicus: Information from Answers.com

    CJO - Abstract - Habitat characters of <em>Tigriopus californicus</em> (Copepoda: Harpacticoida), with notes on the dispersal of supralittoral fauna

    When given the right conditions, Tigger-Pods can definitely be grown at the temperatures of reef systems. We have been maintaining the same culture for over 5 years and they are cultured in a warm greenhouse, so our pods are even more acclimated to warm temperatures than the wild ones.
     
  4. inwall75

    inwall75 Giant Squid

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    Hey Randy,

    I hope you're doing well. Gresham occasionally pops in here on 3Reef.
     
  5. PackLeader

    PackLeader Giant Squid

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    Excellent copy/paste of links with the exact paragraphing anyone can put up, from your own website I might add, and trolling by a company that has not registered as a sponsor here on the forum seafarm. I rest my case. The rest is up to the individual. I do not mean to cause a stir or get in any trouble here, but like I said, you can take it as is it is. Some are experienced reefers here that may even hold degrees in marine biology, some are unsolicited vendors, all of which are offering information. Take it as it is.
     
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  6. sostoudt

    sostoudt Giant Squid

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    while its true they can live into the lower 80's i dont think there very hardy at that temperature, after all they die around 85 degrees. i think there happiest at 70 degrees. if they really were reef suitable pods i think we would definitely see them below california, after all they stretch to from canada to cali, so its not like isolation in the tide pools prevents there spread.

    im sure its possible to get a group to live in a reef environment, but i doubt they will ever reproduce like the pods that are carried in on live rock. even if they do reproduce, high temperature make them give birth to a higher ratio of males then females, so it will be unlikely the population will grow in a linear fashion, and eventually there will be a drop off in numbers, hence the need to repopulate with more pods.

    also they dislike intense lighting and are canniballistic


    edit: i would definitely aclimate them to a stressful reef environment, if added straight from a fridge or even cool location im sure the shock will kill them
     
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  7. inwall75

    inwall75 Giant Squid

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    Just a friendly reminder to everyone.

    Feel free to hit the "report this post to a moderator button" if you see a questionable post. I view this as some defending a registered trademark.

    There are several companies that sell Tigriopus californicus but if they are called Tigger-Pods, that is the registered trademark of Seafarm's company.

    FWIW, I have successfully kept cultures of Tigriopus californicus from Randy's company, from Adelaide's company, etc.alive in reef tank temperatures for some time now (but I also don't have a mandarin, scooter dragonet, etc).
     
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  9. Gresham

    Gresham Great Blue Whale

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    We were one of the first few sponsors. In fact I was a MOD here for a few years a while back. No one was trolling but rest assured I will be spending a lot more time on 3reef once again :D

    If you talk about another product and falsely represent it rest assured some one will correct you. In this case it was the company itself. Nothing wrong with that. He didn't come here blindly pitching it but rather countering what was said.
     
  10. Gresham

    Gresham Great Blue Whale

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    *If* they died at 85f most of cali would not have any since our upper splash zones can hit 90 - 100 on any given summer day. They also range down to the tip of Baja Mexico. Not to mention I have heard reports of them being even further down.

    If you have ever visited their natural environment you find their pools are hot and the ocean is really cold. The ocean temp around here is about 50f. Most fridges are 33-45f. The tide pools are anywhere from 50 - 90+ on any given day. If they did not survive massive temp swings they simply would cease to exist around here.

    This is all beside the fact we have been working with these guys for ~5 years now. Through our continued breeding we have selectively bred ones that are far more reef suitable then ones from the wild.
     
  11. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    I added Tigerpods to my seahorse tank and they are still swimming around alive alomst 2 weeks after adding them. I have that tank running at 68ºF though. ;) The bottle I bought had about 2000 in it for $20.
     
  12. schackmel

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    I have used it many times and never had problems in any of my tanks. You have to follow the directions when using them....let them warm to room temp before you add them to the tank. In fact I am about ready to get a new bottle and add it to my tank....I had a mandarian jump a couple months ago so I was letting my population rebuild and am going to get another one soon....so I will be buying Tigerpods probably this weekend. I will be adding it to my refuge into my cheato