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Discussion in 'Refugium' started by Scuba Ken, Jun 10, 2011.

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  1. Scuba Ken

    Scuba Ken Ritteri Anemone

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    OK, so the Sump /refugium is all set up and running, I do have a couple of issues and will ask the questions here in bullet form, rather than boring you all to death
    1. I am also running a cannister filter, if there a reason why i shouldnt ? I want to ensure my water is crystal clear and clean, and I dont have any faith in the sump as yet
    2. Should I be running my skimmer all the time in the sump ?
    3. I have a inline coral life 6x UV filter, should this be running all the time ?
    4. due to size constraints i have had to put my recirculating pump and skimmer in the same section, this has caused some very minial/fine bubbling, whats the best was to get rid of this without moving either, as i dont have the room
    5. I have a 90 gallon main tank with 100lbs of LR in it, and now 20Lbs of live rock in the sump, is that too much ? should i also leave some snails/hermit crabs in there to keep it clean and tidy ?
    6. I am also running my heater in the sump, is this ok ?
    7. the discharge from the skimmer i am keeping in a bottle and putting down the sink, am i supposed to be doing that ?
    8. the light i have above the live rock, should i be leaving that on 24 hours a day ?


    Sorry, but thats what I had to ask :)
     
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  3. Mr. Bill

    Mr. Bill Native Floridian

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    1) Absolutely not! Just understand that the canister is a high-maintenance filter-- trapped debris will still deteriorate into DOCs, same as if left in the tank. This is how the canister got the label "nitrate factory", although I disagree if proper maintenance is applied.

    2) Yes. No harm in running the skimmer 24/7.

    3) There's a lot of controversy over the actual benefit of UV filters, however, there is no harm. It, too, can be run 24/7 if you choose to use one.

    4) Add an intake sponge to the return pump. That should filter out most of the bubbles.

    5) I don't think there is such a thing as "too much" live rock, so long as it fits in the tank and leaves adequate room for livestock. :) The snails and hermits can be left in the sump for clean-up.

    6) Yes. That's where most people put their heaters.

    7) Yes. Don't see a problem, there.

    8 ) No. Leaving the lights on 24/7 can spawn nuisance algae growth. There's really no benefit in 24/7 lighting.
     
  4. Scuba Ken

    Scuba Ken Ritteri Anemone

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    1) Absolutely not! Just understand that the canister is a high-maintenance filter-- trapped debris will still deteriorate into DOCs, same as if left in the tank. This is how the canister got the label "nitrate factory", although I disagree if proper maintenance is applied.

    I am planning on cleaning it out completley once the sump has proven itself.

    2) Yes. No harm in running the skimmer 24/7.

    Done !

    3) There's a lot of controversy over the actual benefit of UV filters, however, there is no harm. It, too, can be run 24/7 if you choose to use one.

    Done !

    4) Add an intake sponge to the return pump. That should filter out most of the bubbles.

    Is this an actual bought item, or something that is bought for a different reason and "encouraged" to fit ?

    5) I don't think there is such a thing as "too much" live rock, so long as it fits in the tank and leaves adequate room for livestock. :) The snails and hermits can be left in the sump for clean-up.

    Done !

    6) Yes. That's where most people put their heaters.

    Done !

    7) Yes. Don't see a problem, there.

    Done !

    8 ) No. Leaving the lights on 24/7 can spawn nuisance algae growth. There's really no benefit in 24/7 lighting.

    I will put it on a timer for the oposite hours the tank lights are on, is that too much ? about 10 hours ?



    Thank you Sir. !
     
  5. Blue Falcon

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    Some pumps come with a sponge, if yours didnt, you could use some filter floss over the intake depending on the pump design, also your skimmer may have a sponge on the output pipe, adjusting the sponge to be an inch or so above the output pipe may help reduce micro bubbles.

    As for the fuge light, I run mine for 10 hours at night with great results.
     
  6. Scuba Ken

    Scuba Ken Ritteri Anemone

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    Friend of mine suggested a putting the pump into a old tube sock ?
    The pump is a maxi jet 4500 utility pump


    thank you for the help Sir.
     
  7. Mr. Bill

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    That may help to some extent, but I doubt it would be as effective as a sponge or filter floss. Your LFS should carry replacement intake/prefilter sponges. If they don't have one for your pump, one for a different pump will work, so long as it has the same size intake.
     
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  9. Blue Falcon

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    with a pump design like the one you have, im really not sure how to apply a filter sponge. Perhaps just allow the suction to hold a thin piece of filter floss over the intake but im not sure how much this would reduce the flow. I have a mag drive pump. If you look at the design of a mag pump or eheim pump you can see they have an intake that sticks out to place a sponge over. Hopefully someone will chime in who uses the same pump as you.
     
  10. bioreefdude

    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    u are never suppose to restrict water flow into ur pump that will surly burn it out if u want the skimmer to sit with pump the skimmer output should not dump into same chamber make it dump in a different chamber
     
  11. Mr. Bill

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    ARGH!! Didn't look up the specific pump. Just assumed it was like the Maxi-Jets I've used that did have an intake "nose" for the snap-on screen and prefilter sponge. :oops:

    Anyway, a flat sponge or some filter floss could be held in place with plastic electrical cable ties. Other than that, someone who uses the same pump may have a better idea, as Blue Falcon suggested.
     
  12. Scuba Ken

    Scuba Ken Ritteri Anemone

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    thanks Guys.

    Another little issue occured last night........... slurping from the over flow tank hanging on the back of the tank (Aqueon 220), initially i took off the 2 sponges and the slurping stopped, but . . . . . . . . . . . at 2am this morning, the slurping started again . . . . . . . . my thoughts . . . . . . . .add some live rock to the holding tank to raise the height of the water ? or add some filter material into the tubes to reduce the noise ?
    Both lines out of the over flow tank are flowing really well, I am running the Maxi 4500 at full, so the GPH are about 1175 GPH, my tank is only 90 gallons ?

    I dont mind the slurping too much, but I know a lady who would like to pull the plug on the tank this morning ? LoL