Do I have too much livestock?

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  1. OverThinker

    OverThinker Skunk Shrimp

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    75g established for 2 years
    moved to my house and cleaned 3 weeks ago
    new substrate: 30lb argonite, 30lb coral sand
    about 70+ lbs. LR
    Aquac EV-120 Protein Skimmer
    MH ballasts (2x175w) retrofit setup but not using
    2x65w Actinic 03 PCs running 12 hours a day
    Sump w/bioballs
    Wavemaker
    AquaC 30 Powerhead connected to overflow box

    Livestock:
    about 8-10 small hermit crabs
    about 3-5 snails
    Large Hermit Crab
    Peppermint Shrimp
    Combtooth Blenny (4.5 in.)
    Yellow Tang (5 in. piggy)
    2 blue damsels (3 in. each)
    2 small yellowtail damsels
    2 tomato clowns
    small 3 in. body black longspine urchin

    Wondering if I can get a naso tang with this group...or a hairy mushroom? The urchin or hermit might eat it...?
     
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  3. mikejrice

    mikejrice 3reef Affiliate

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    Your livestock looks fine to me. You should be able to get a naso just watch out the tangs may not get along to great. I would get rid of the urchin I believe they eat all corals and coraline alae.
     
  4. mikejrice

    mikejrice 3reef Affiliate

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    Oh but I would wait at least a month to get any more fish since you just moved the setup.
     
  5. coral reefer

    coral reefer Giant Squid

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    You should do fine with adding a Naso Tang temporarilly as the Naso Tang will get rather large in time. For the most part, as long as the Tangs being added are not same body style or species, aggressive behavior should not be evident, though their are exceptions. I have a Yellow, Orange Tipped Bristlemouth and a Naso Tang and they get along fine.
    Often times, it makes a difference as to how you add the Tangs and when that can present a problem or lack thereof!
    As for the Black Diadema(Long Spine Urchin, they consume algae and coralline as well, but if you have coralline, it should continue to grow at a faster rate than it is consumed by the Urchin. The benefits provided by the Urchin far outweigh the coralline eaten by them in my opinion! They do not eat coral and fish...Keep the Urchin!
     
  6. nctinter

    nctinter Skunk Shrimp

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    I have 4 of the black urchins and thought about taking them out. They have grown big too. They do eat up my coraline on the glass but not the rocks. I think they do more good than harm. At least I don't have to scrape coraline off the back glass :)
     
  7. salsalito25

    salsalito25 Stylophora

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    my recomendation (sp) is if you can find your naso get it as small as you can.. this way he an grow to the tank in a few years, Then in one year and out grow it... I guess i should say with big breed of fish alway buy then when small... Hope that helps..



    Good Luck.....!!!
     
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  9. Robman

    Robman Great White Shark

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    We added a Naso with no problem.....but it will out grow a 75g....they can get to about 18".
     
  10. Screwtape

    Screwtape Tonozukai Fairy Wrasse

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    You may run into aggression from the yellow since it's established as well as the Naso outgrowing the tank. Personally I wouldn't add it, there are better community and long-term options.
     
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  11. PharmrJohn

    PharmrJohn The Dude

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    I would agree.
     
  12. Optimist

    Optimist Peppermint Shrimp

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    I second that... or third... lol.
    You want one cuz they are pretty but they get up to 18" and the minimum tank for those is like in the 6 foot region. They need room to grow and run when scared. My Powder Blue kicked my Naso's butt and my PB was more then half the size smaller then the Naso. In a 75 the Naso would be so unhappy.
    Your inch of fish is like 21-ish, which is 3 gallons of water per inch of fish... you are right were you need to be... let it stabilize a bit longer since you just moved it. I know the Naso is PRETTY but the are abundant enough to get one later with the right circumstances.