Filtering confusion

Discussion in 'Refugium' started by Cutch, Dec 19, 2010.

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  1. Cutch

    Cutch Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Hi Everyone. I have a 75 gallon reef tank that is about a year and a half old. Just recently have had a problem with cyano. I have a wet/dry filter (bio balls). I have recently been told that this is typical for bio balls. I have the cyano under control but I have been having to do a 15 gallon water changes every week. I am thinking about changing over to a refuguim. I have looked at a local company called bashsea. Is this a good idea? How do I convert over so I do not crash my tank? Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.
     
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  3. steve wright

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    If you get a picture up of your sump, wet dry etc, that would be useful

    but typically, the best method of removing part of a biological filtration system is slowly

    removal of 25% per week over a 4 week period , gives time for the bacteria thats being removed to be replaced by bacteria that will develop in other areas (rockwork and sand etc)

    monitor for Ammonia and Nitrite in the mean time, and have some Amquel or Prime on hand in case you do get a reading ( I doubt you will as the bacteria will reproduce quickly to compensate for that which is removed)

    Steve
     
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  4. Cutch

    Cutch Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Thanks for the quick response Steve. I believe that I probably need to switch to a refugium set-up. The tank has been doing fine up to this point. Is it typical for a wet dry set-up to have issues after a year or so? Here is a picture.
     

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    You can have issues, depending on the maintainance being done on them
    those balls get coated in sediment which becomes the source of Nitrates etc
    and thats when you can get issues with cyno and/ or algae etc

    its does not seem overly dirty in there, but I do see a lot of accumulated detritus on the base of the sump, so it might be safe for me to assume the bioballs are also a little dirty

    IMHO - you dont need them anyway, providing you have enough LR in the tank

    also what are you like for flow in the DT? as cyno often (not always I admit) tends to do well in areas of little water movement, because the nutrients stay there for a bit longer giving the cyno time to utilise them

    which is why many people with fuges, have cyno in the fuge but not in the DT

    Steve
     
  6. Cutch

    Cutch Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Thanks again. I did experiment a bit with the flow. My wife also has a very heavy hand when feeding them. I really like the idea of a fuge. I am sure when I am ready to get started I will have many additional questions. Cyano is ok in the fuge isnt it?
     
  7. steve wright

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    Welcome

    yes Cyno uses up nutrients in the same way as Macro algaes do
    so having some in the fuge is no bad thing, and keeping out of the DT is the aim

    you may need to periodically rinse any Chaeto etc you have in the fuge to prevent the cyno overgrowing it and depriving it of light and nutrients
    but other than that, there is no reason to worry about it in a fuge

    Steve