Fish, and pain....

No, the threads not about fish BEING a pain,
But rather, do fish feel pain?

I was just reading a thread on the Dark side about this.

I would like to add what my good friend said one day while we were fishing in Galveston Bay.

If a fishes jaw has pain recepters, then why does it swim away as hard as it can when hooked? Wouldn't that hurt, and if anything, they'd swim towards the line/rod?

I think they have pressure sensors in and around the lateral line for sure.

The thread was about putting a too sick, or too injured fish down- euthanizing it.

My 2 cents on that one- Never flush a fish down the toilet!
Unless, it's already dead.
THAT would be a cruel death, all the human waste and stuff to try and breath and swim in!

 

YES! they are trying to get rid of the pain/escape it! IMO

I fish, have fish, been around alot of fish. And I think its obvious they do. Either way, yes or no, I think we have an obligation to dispatch of them as humanely as possible.

 

I believe that fish do feel pain...

I added an anemone to one of my tanks a few years ago. My clownfish went in, then shot right back out, and for several minutes was frantically darting around the tank and scratching her side on the rocks and sand. She'd gotten stung, and most definitely felt it. While she did survive, she never went near another nem.

 

Yes Cos, and that's precisely where most of that thread went.

Clubbing them? Freezing them? Clove oil?? Using Vodka???

 

From what I've read, clove oil is the nicest method to use.

 

Just curiuos, you think the fish knew the hook was from- lets say a boat, and from a rod on the boat and was trying to swim away? /they do swim towards the boat to at times.

I've had fish, a 4.5 ft king Mackeral comes to mind, pull so hard against my line, I had to have my friend fight it for a short break- EXCEPT this fish was actually foul hooked just behind it's dorsal fin! When we finally gotr it in- the hook had bore a huge hole just aft of it's fin!- If that hurt, why pull even harder against it?

I'm not saying they don't feel pain- I'm just saying.

If and when it comes to putting a fish to sleep, I think the quickest way possible might be the best- as far as being 'humane' is concerned.

 

They must. Haven't clowns developed a thick coat to tolerate the nematocysts within anemone tissue, while other fish can't/haven't?

 

umm its a fish! I think you're using human rationale for an animal that can't grasp it! It got hooked and is trying to get away/go home, your line is preventing that.

 

I don't think they have the mental ability to reason and like that. I don't think they realize the are pulling against a line. perhaps they can learn from their mistakes like humans, who knows? How do we know not to touch a hot stove? A) We were either told or B) we experienced the stove's burn.

 

Perfect example- grouper. They come out of the hole, grab food, go back in their hole. That same process occurs when they grab your bait. Your job is to prevent them from going back into that hole.