Fish Disease Help

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  1. johnmaloney

    johnmaloney 3reef Sponsor

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    I am trying to learn more about fish diseases and I know there are a few members here very well versed in them. Can you help me out?

    Is there potential problems with treating a fish with methylene blue and nitrofurazone at the same time?

    how about after a FW dip?

    Should there be time between the dip and the treatment? Which should come first?

    (Trying to get an idea of how much these medications will stress a fish if the combination makes a difference...well you get my drift hopefully. )

    Okay assume the tank is treated with methylene blue and nitrofurazone would it be safe to feed the fish something for internal parasites/worms like praziquantal?

    how do you feel about melaflix? in conjunction with the other medications?

    thanks! any info in this area would help, I hear what one does and what another does, but nothing about potential interactions.

    Nothing sick at the moment, I just want to learn more on the subject.
     
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  3. elweshomayor

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    I've always heard that it's not good to mix any type of medications.

    I usually don't do dips and treatment on the same day..
    If I do a dip I wait for a day or 2 for treatment. For example.
    I take the fish out of DT, give him a dip, then put it on a hospital tank and then wait till next day or 2. Only then I start on a
    medication. However i only do this if it's an extreme or I have no other choice, I rather let them stay in DT and give them quality food, have params in check and let them fight it on its own. Less stressful IMO.
     
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  4. johnmaloney

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    i have the opposite, most of the sources I came across say if you treat the fish you should also use an anti-biotic to fight secondary infections.
     
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    at the same time though? i agree with treating anti-biotics after you use the original medication but im not sure whether to do it at the same time.
    here is a bump to the question.

    EDIT: I read a bit on my book just now. and it says. "Never add another remedy immediately after another, as combining several remedies may be toxic".

    But im not sure if this applies to all sorts of remedies.
     
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    Why would you want to use meth blue. Any reason in particular? Meth and nitro are coupled is in Furan-2, so that combo should be fine.

    There's a lot if meds that can be used together and some even work better when used in a combo.

    Praziquantel can be used via the GI route if you are using the other med as a bath.

    You can do a FW dip at any point during the other treatments.

    I don't use melafix or any of those type meds. I never found a use for them.
     
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    I can't speak about the other medications, but I've used melafix and pimafix together to successfully treat something my fish had. I don't know what it was, but it looked like an ulcer (open wound) with fungus growing on it. However, melafix and pimafix are "natural" and not selective, so I don't know how well they work for specific diseases. But they worked for me this one time.
     
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  9. unclejed

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    As you may know, I taut prevention. I am an advocate of Marine-Max by Tropical Science. A good natural way to prevent disease and not have to stress the already weakened fish.
     
  10. johnmaloney

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    agreed preventing fish disease is best....

    no reason in particular at all I guess. I have a hospital tank setup in addition to QT tank setups now so I am just doing some research. I would definitely be feeding the Praziquantel, that stuff is expensive!

    I asked about the methylene blue in particular because I have some on hand for treatment of fish that had water quality degradation issues in transport.

    Same with the Melaflix, I use it with coral revive, and coral rx to ward off bacterial infections in zoas and it seems to work pretty well so I figure I would ask about the effect on fish. I was thinking for preventative treatment of minor cuts and nicks. I was thinking it would be a weaker but milder treatment of minor issues, seems mild...

    you wouldn't happen to know if any of these meds have interaction issues with ick meds like formalin or copper based meds do you?
     
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    Copper can be mixed with the formalin and meth blue. Never with neomycin or sulfonamides in particular. When the gang awakens, I'll see if my med book is hiding in there.

    Prazi orally is fine, although sometimes they may loose their appetite in treatment and refuse oral meds.
     
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  12. johnmaloney

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