Fish Disease Help

Discussion in 'Tropical Fish' started by johnmaloney, Oct 24, 2010.

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  1. mikejrice

    mikejrice 3reef Affiliate

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    I wouldn't be quick to mix meds without good proof that it will work out, but it's always good to mix meds with hypo. Dropping your salinity to about 1.010 will allow more oxygen into the water and prevent stress related diseases from creeping in during treatment.
     
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  3. johnmaloney

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    so hypo will reduce the stress associated with meds? i was thinking of it as a "treatment" and that each additional "treatment" is another stress. Nice to know some treatments take the edge off others. Thanks for that tip!
     
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    Yeah, the lower the salinity, the higher the oxygenation potential of the water. Some meds lower the oxygenation potential of the water, so it can help fight that. Fish can also be dropped pretty rapidly into hypo, because they are going into more highly oxygenated water. It does take some time to get them back up to full salinity though.

    what is it that you're treating?
     
  5. johnmaloney

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    nothing at the moment, I just want to learn more on the subject. I started off with those meds because they are in front of me, but I am interested in others too. I don't want to learn the hard way basically that I killed a fish because such and such made a particular treatment ineffective.
     
  6. Renee@LionfishLair

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    Exactly, that's why I got that information directly from the book Diseases in Marine Aquarium Fish by Bassleer. It's one if this hobby's disease/treatment bibles. I have a more in-depth book packed somewhere in a box that I need to poke around to find. It's way into chemistry and out of my scope, but it does have some useful hobbyist level information. But first I sleep.... night shift worker. ZZZzzz.
     
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    Dood.... I can't find the box. I did find my CPR book I was looking for! I will look again when I finish my set of shifts.

    But in the mean time, how about we discuss what we've run into most frequently and what we've treated it with. What kind of fish it was and did it work.

    You have to be careful about using hyposaline conditions and meds. I LOVE hypo when a fish is in trouble. However, prepared marine meds have doses calculated for standard tank conditions.... round about 1.023. If you place the fish in hypo and a medication bath, you could be over or under dosing.
     
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  9. johnmaloney

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    sounds good except i dont have any stories. I would like to hear some though. :) (I think the Sgt Major in my display has internal worms from the description of it Lee Birch gave, so that treatment will happen soon. He is fat, and healthy looking, but the tank is fed 3 times or more a day to keep the bluehead happy and he is overfed...I guess his worms must be happy too, but the birch description was pretty much what he has going on there.
     
  10. blackraven1425

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    I think when you use hypo, you're supposed to not use copper, because as you lower the salinity you get a higher effective dose. A dose of 1mg/ml of copper is (supposedly) stronger in 1.015 salinity than 1.025 salinity.
     
  11. elweshomayor

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    yes this is true.
    if you use copper based meds you cant do hypo at the same time.. ( it says it on the label as well lol)..
     
  12. Renee@LionfishLair

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    Yup, there are other meds too. You just have make sure simultaneous treatments are compatible. Never assume and get your info from a reliable source.