Flow?

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  1. Beamerhack

    Beamerhack Coral Banded Shrimp

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    I currently have the following in my tank and was wondering your guys input on if I need to add more flow or even upgrade the PH I have now.

    I have

    2 RIO 1400's
    1 AquaClear 70 HOB filter
    Odyseaa PS75 Skimmer

    I have no idea on how to calculate if this is enough or not. It is around 70-75 gallon tank and you can see how I have it setup in my pictures. I have one PH on each side the HOB filter on one side and the Skimmer on the other.

    I am not running a sump either at the moment. I seem to have a small Cyano problem but it does seem to be going away with me feeding less.

    Should I supply more Flow?

    TIA
     
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  3. LCP136

    LCP136 Sailfin Tang

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    I'm not an expert on water movement or flow, but cyano often means too much flow. What are your parameters? They may give a clue into the cyano problem.
     
  4. Crimson Ghost

    Crimson Ghost Blue Ringed Angel

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    I suggest more flow - Cyano can not be in your tank if it can't hold on.
     
  5. Beamerhack

    Beamerhack Coral Banded Shrimp

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    I did a test lastnight...


    Ammonia 0ppm
    Nitrite 0ppm
    Nitrate 5.0ppm
    Calcium 600
    Phosphate 0
    PH 8.1
     
  6. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    It's actually the opposite that is true. When you have stagnant water or very low flow, you will find cyano in your tank. What happens is that the detritus will settle on the sand and rock and there is not enough flow to break that up and algae and cyano will form to feed off that. When you lift cyano up off the base it's growing on, you will always find a lot of detritus and bio sediment underneath it. It's also a good idea to get a turkey baster and blast the areas of rock that don't get much water flow to prevent buildup of waste there.
    Many people suggest using Koralias to add flow, which I do too. I also suggest Seios too. Tunze or Vortechs are awesome but are very expensive.
     
  7. Beamerhack

    Beamerhack Coral Banded Shrimp

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    It seems to be mainly on one rock that is kinda of hinding in the tank. I dont want to move the rock because I looks good where it is but I was thinking of buying a low powered small PH to place in that area.

    Or should I just feed less for a week or two to see if it dies off?
     
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  9. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    Ca is a little on the high side. What are your dKH and Mg levels? Those are keys to successful Ca levels. Gradually raise your pH to ~8.3 over the next week too. My basic thought is that larger Rios are used to returns since they use strong suction to push water, where others (like Koralia) churn the water in a less of a "direct blasting" way and distribute the water in a more natural "wave current" way. But definitely add more flow. For a 70G, I would get a couple Koralia 3's and maybe a couple 2's to push water in your tank more.
     
  10. Crimson Ghost

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    I use a few VorTech MP40's set on wave - it was nearly $1,500 in pumps but a worthwhile investment. they have a smaller MP20 I think its around $300 or so - very nice reliable pump tho !!
     
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  11. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    Feed less to slow it down. Feeding should be once every other day and jsut enough for the fish to eat within a minute time. I personally would ditch the Rios and get Koralias or Seios and have them pointed offset towards each other at each corner of the tank, if that makes sense. If you get a small PH and point it a the rock, it will just move the sand all over the place.
    Try not to get too hung up on the looks of rock placement. I loved the way my rockscape looked but I had to move it around a bit when my anemone needed to get moved up in the tank for a while to stimulate its zooxan growth when I first got it. Now I like how the rocks look even more than before. It may be incidental, but I have seen much coralline growth after moving the rock too.
     
  12. bc219

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