GFCI Vs. Grounded 3 prong

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  1. skennelly

    skennelly Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Does anybody have knowledge of the difference between these two. I know that a GFCI can be installed when a ground is not available ie...in a 2 wire system. Does a 3 prong outlet provide the same safety mechanism assuming a good ground is present in the home? At $12.00 GFCI is the safe way to go, but I was just wondering.

    What do people on the forum have?
     
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  3. Trickman2

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    [glow=red,2,300] Always use a GFI.  A Ground fault interupt Senses if a ground has shorted and turns off the power.  A Three prong will not do anything but let it short to the ground.
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    IF YOU ARE NOT USING A GFI YOU WOULD BE WISE TO GET ONE NOW!!!!
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    Not only are you possible saving your own life you are also protecting your fish.  Their is no reason why anyone should not have A GFI period.  They are easy to install and fairly cheap.[/glow]
     
  4. tstone

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    Trickman2 is right.

    Also, most building codes require use of GFCI within some distance,
    often 6 feet, of a water source. Of course, what constitutes a water source is not always clear.
     
  5. skennelly

    skennelly Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Relax! I have already installed a GFCI, I just read some conficting articles about the difference.
     
  6. Matt Rogers

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    Yeah, honestly I am just using powerstrips that have surge protectors on them. Won't this protect it against surges and shorts?
     
  7. Trickman2

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    Matt,  I would recommend that you put one in ASAP,  Either a whole new socket or if you are not comfortable with replacing a Electrical out Then I would buy Powerstrip with a built in GFI.  A powerstrip cannot protect like a GFI will.  They can be bought at home depot for 5-10 dollars I believe for the Electrical socket type.  If you want the powerstrip type its probably around twenty.  I would hate to see anyone from 3reefs Get hurt over not having a GFI when they are so inexpensive and Valuable.   [smiley=yaknow.gif]

    A powerstrip will probably protect your pumps but not you or your fish.
     
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  9. Birdlady

    Birdlady Finback Whale

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    Our Reef club sponsored a vendor who makes big time surge protectors and they had a news clip, and video displaying the danger of so called "surge protectors". Most have a little chip thingy called MOV's that supposedly protects ....but it wears over time, and eventually doesn't work any more. Some have even caused house fires!

    A good surge protector should have a Capacitor type of device in it to be reliable.

    http://www.zerosurge.com/residential.html

    Here is the link, if interested in more details....

    Of course they are pricey, they were recommending the 8R series for reefers, they gave us one free to raffle ;D And after all, we spend hundreds of bucks on the equipment, why not protect it.

    They were not pushy at all so I can't say they were just pushing sales either. It was good info tho.
     
  10. Matt Rogers

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    Something to put on the list. thanks!
     
  11. JohnO

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    [quote author=Trickman2 link=board=General;num=1103559725;start=0#5 date=12/20/04 at 15:09:12]
    A powerstrip will probably protect your pumps but not you or your fish.[/quote]

    Never a truer word spoken, it is not always realised that normal circuit breakers are in place to protect wiring, not people. :)

    John
     
  12. Scoffer

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    "Does anybody have knowledge of the difference between these two. I know that a GFCI can be installed when a ground is not available ie...in a 2 wire system"

    I do not believe this is true. But I could be wrong. In a GFI circuit , the earth ground ( there is no positive and negavtive in a ac system. AC voltage travels in BOTH directions) is the medium between the 2 ac lines. Without the 3rd earth ground, tye GFI has no reference and cannot properly "throw" the circuit. I think even the instructions in the box show this.

    If installed incorrectly, the GFI will not work! and a false sense of protection is present. Please follow the instructions carefully!! )

    thats why I never thought of a grounding wire in the tank. But I will look into that asap. !!

    thanks for all the great info all!!

    Scoffer