Good Pepper Spray for self defense?

no sir.... small but can kill and bounces around...... no real stopping power but works

a 38 special much better ;D

a 380 works great noce round for self defence ;D ;D ;D

 

thank u, guys. I knew I could count on u for advice. Here are a few inconvenients about the firearms:

1) they do not let people carry fire arms in this campus.
2) unfortunately she's on a foreign student visa. Buying a gun and carrying it does seem to be exclusively an American right for American people.
3) she's scared of them.

The tasers are too expensive for me at this moment, and u also need a license for it? Who provides that normally?

Unfortunately I can't get her from her office in campus. We work opposite schedules at the moment and if I get her before I go to work, I will greatly limit the amount of work that she can do there. Working at home is an option too, but there are too many distractions (including myself on that one)

So, unless there is some kind of stun gun that does not require a permit and doesn't cost $250+ I really can't afford one.

That brings me back to the spray, in whichever way it may be, but it has to be a good one, and since I have no experience with this (i did lots of martial arts and never needed anything else) I really do appreciate the suggestions u can give me. This is something that I promised her I will research and materialize within 2 weeks. So I want to make sure I'll buy the right product for her.


Again, thank u SO MUCH for all your help and suggestions. And, please, keep them coming since I have no clue :-(

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box 20c you would need a reason.. take a hunters education course, buy a hunting license, voila! LEGAL aliens can own firearms. In TN as well.

if shes afraid, get her to pull the trigger a few times at a range.

that is an older form but on the new eform from atf its still there.

btw, id rather be guilty of a gun charge on campus, than raped stabbed or dead.

 

I'm all for peace, love and non-violence towards others, but if a MAN IS CHASING YOUR GIRLFRIEND TO HER CAR AT NIGHT it's go time.

She needs a pistol.

 

I did not read everything so this may or may not have been said. First my back round is in Aikido and I've done a few other martial arts as well as being involved in self defense classes for people at risk. The first thing that needs to be talked about is victim mentality and proper training. My sensei (Gayle Fillman) was overweight and I've been there when the cops called her to come deal with things they did not know how to (she trained most of them). The point is the she can handle her own if she knows how, size is not as much of a issue as people think. I think pepper spray is a good idea, but she needs to think about wind and other things because a lot of people end up spraying themselves because their too scared to think. I would never put a gun in a situation like this. It's going to make everything more serious and will most likely be used against her unless she's been trained in more than just how to use a gun (or she'll panic and shoot some one and that's worse than loosing a purse) and if she had training that she should not need a gun. I feel sorry for any man that attacks some one from out self defense training. I have so many pads on me I make a football player look naked and I'm still all bruised up. One small girl even managed to brake my cup! OH MAN THAT SUCKED!!

 

Well, life trumps laws. Consider a small descrete revolver that doesn't discharge the cartridges. That way she can ice the assailant, leave very little evidence except for the rounds in his chest, go home real quick, and keep it quiet. Don't involve the cops. Just saying, that's what I'd do.

Where is she from?

 

First just brandishing a gun is a psychological deterent. This goes both ways. A guy runs into a bank with pepper spray he might get his ass kicked. He runs in with a gun there is a bigger response regardless of caliber. The same thing is true with detering an attacker, when you show a weapon. Some agencies and training recommend a light or laser on your weapon just for the same deterent purpose. I'll be honest not ever has it in them to shoot someone even if they own a gun or not.

Next I agree with one of the earlier posters. No a .22 will not hurt someone very bad. Keep in mind though not every person is out to kill the attacker. Go back to the psychological thing. You fire off a round hit or miss it still can have a psychological effect. Alot of criminals are oportunist criminals, not dedicated hardcore criminals. So they are out to snatch and grab. Feed thier meth habit who knows, so getting injured or anything that will highlight them publically isnt on thier agenda. So brandishing or warning shot is enough to stop them. You shoot your meth head with a .22, he runs off your safe, mission accomplished for you right?

If we go to the next step and were talking actually firing with intent to injure or kill then I personally recommend something bigger than the .380/9mm. I can speak here with multiple times of first hand expereience a 9mm does not have instant put people down power. I wont go into the nitty gritty of it, but I am required at work to carry a 9mm side arm, and at home its .40 or better for me, sorry.

Going back to deterent spray though, let me help you out with a little known secret. Its called animal deterent spray. In particular I want to highlight BEAR deterent spray. They sell it up north and definitely sporting shops in Alaska carrying it (thats where I bought mine). The reason I say little known secret is because it is much more powerful that standard issue civilian deterent spray. Depending ont he bran it can be just as strong as police/military issue spray. The downside is that it is normally a bigger can more suitable for under the seat of the car type carrying. Check your local laws on legality of owning and carrying though.

 

If you're talking deterrents, you can try a small gun with blanks. I'd advise against guns though, as if they have one, it could end up very bad. If stun guns are out of your price range, I'd get some hand to hand training and a taser, it'd be cheaper and still effective.

Also found this for you: http://www.beststungun.com/streetwise-mini-stun-gun.html

 

Hand to hand training. I will advocate the basic anti-assault training ONLY. This training is designed around the minimum amount of physical contact just to ESCAPE & SEEK HELP.

DO NOT go to your local dojo and look for karate/ju-jit-su or MMA training. This training is not designed to stop an attacker. MMA style fighting is designed for sport, TV & internet tough guys, it is not designed around stopping an attacker, and people trying to do use such training in those situations often end up in hospitals and TV headlines. They should put a 'do not attempt this at home' label on those shows.

At higher levels of training (read months and years) sure you probably could, but a couple of free intro lessons is only gonna give you enough to be dangerous......... to yourself!

 

I'm not a baddie or anything, but this is starting to sacre me...