Has your sand solidified?

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Has your sand solidified?

  1. Yes.

    5 vote(s)
    12.8%
  2. No.

    34 vote(s)
    87.2%
  1. inwall75

    inwall75 Giant Squid

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    There are ssssoooooooo many variables that I cannot answer that for you. Eventually, a DSB will fill up (anaerobic zone gets bigger while the aerobic zone gets smaller). When that happens, you will get the hardening that Tangster is describing. However, it's been my experience that most people upgrade their tanks before this happens. If you are doing the right thing for your sandbed (see several posts up), you can have one last years.

    This is very true and is responsible for short-lived DSB's.

    Here's Dr. Ron's comments on how much bioload a DSB can handle.
    Most people I know that have a 100 gallon tank have waaaay more than 3 or 4 small fish and a couple of corals. Any more bioload than that and even the DSB's staunchiest proponent admits that it's too much.

    Here's a thread you might like. http://www.3reef.com/forums/sand/bb-vs-dsb-34593.html?highlight=bare bottom

    DISCLAIMER: I'M NOT A FAN OF A LOT OF DR. SHIMEK'S SLOPPY WORK AND OCCASIONALLY I WILL MAKE FUN OF HIM IN PUBLIC. HOWEVER, THESE ARE MY OPINIONS AND NOT THE OPINIONS OF 3REEF.
     
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  3. coral reefer

    coral reefer Giant Squid

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    Nothing, zilch, nada, never had that problem as I try to stir up the dsb from time to time!!!
     
  4. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    LOL Like I told him long ago all septic tanks will fill up these are little boxes of water and not a ocean in its nature or mass and any fool to ever think so is just that! Oh we had our conversations LOL Last time I was called a idiot/fool and the village idiot and to damn old or stupid to listen and to learn from what he was "selling" and he had no time to waste on a old fool such as myself LOL He was somewhere on a key board.

    If you look at the writings of the sandman ideas changes like the tides LOL at first it was touted as the be all end all no maintenance or water changes or this OR that the magic sand and bugs did all the work! LOL

    Like I said I knew in the early 70's that DSB snake would bite. No matter how they where set up.. I had a job and my aquariums where and are my hobby to enjoy.. The DSB requires to mush tweaking and worrying with. I average about 11 to 12 yrs on my methods before I get a real early warning signal OTS ( Old Tank Syndrom) and until it does not work or gives me problems I see no reason to change them :)
     
  5. amcarrig

    amcarrig Super Moderator

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    If you stir a deep sand bed, you're defeating its purpose. The idea behind them is to prevent oxygenated water from seeping down into the anaerobic areas of the sandbed. Stirring your sand would expose these anaerobic bacteria to oxygen which would cause the bacteria to die.
     
  6. kb.bear

    kb.bear Peppermint Shrimp

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    I have never had my sand solidify but I think this a great thread maybe all of the info in it could be condensed and become an article what do you think?