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  1. Inuki

    Inuki Astrea Snail

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    [quote author=karlas link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#7 date=07/23/03 at 18:35:23]I was wondering do you have any test kits? i didnt see this mentioned you should have ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate test kits. When the ammonia and nitrite are at 0 this is when  you want to add your first animal. i think its best to be able to test the water yourself.

    Welcome to the forum[/quote]

    Don't know anything about nirate or ammonia test kits. The fish seller never mention anything about this.

    All they ask me to buy is a thermometer to test the salt level. Once the salt level reaches to the green line, the salt is fine.

    What's this about nirate test kit and so on? My hubby also have a small tank of its own. Does small tank also need all these nirate and ammonia test kit??
     
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  3. Jason McKenzie

    Jason McKenzie Super Moderator

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    Inuki,
    I would look at the part of this Web site that is marked STEPS at the top. Also I would not add any more animals until you read alittle about water quality and how a saltwater tank works. once you have done that (with our help) you will have a lot more fun with your new hobby.

    Good luck and welcome to 3Reef

    Jakets
     
  4. Craig Manoukian

    Craig Manoukian Giant Squid

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    Inuki,

    Where are you located?

    As karlas mentioned you can read the steps and get most, if not all of your questions answered. I'll let you check this link out and then field any specific questions you still have.
    http://www.3reef.com/step1.htm

    :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::)
     
  5. Inuki

    Inuki Astrea Snail

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    [quote author=Craig_Manoukian link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#12 date=07/24/03 at 13:40:58]Inuki,

    Where are you located?

    As karlas mentioned you can read the steps and get most, if not all of your questions answered.  I'll let you check this link out and then field any specific questions you still have.
     http://www.3reef.com/step1.htm

    :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::)[/quote]

    Singapore
     
  6. Inuki

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    [quote author=Craig_Manoukian link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#12 date=07/24/03 at 13:40:58]Inuki,

    Where are you located?

    As karlas mentioned you can read the steps and get most, if not all of your questions answered.  I'll let you check this link out and then field any specific questions you still have.
     http://www.3reef.com/step1.htm

    :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::)[/quote]

    the link you ask me to go to mention tank, pump and lights.

    Does marine life really need lights? Cause deep under the sea, there isn't any lights but they also survive well right?

    As for the sump and the protein skimmer, I really don't understand. If I go to the aquariam shop and ask them for sump and protein skimmer, do they understand what I want to buy?

    Currently, I have 2 air pump stand inside and a filter that sticks to the tank glass.

    The website you mention didn't say anything about salt.

    One more question is my filter gives off lots of bubbles, I have ask this previously guess you overlook it. The bubbles from the filter is small and alot. It makes my tank look unclear with so many bubbles. Unlike the bubbles given off by my air pump, they are big so it looks nice and clear.

    Is it harmful to have so many bubbles in a tank?
    I have stuff up the pipe of the filter, the filter now gives off only WAVES, am i wrong to do this?
     
  7. Matt Rogers

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    Singapore! :eek: 8) COOL!
    I hope you put that on the Member Map!

    Thanks for joining. :)

    [quote author=Inuki link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#14 date=07/24/03 at 23:41:51]
    Does marine life really need lights? Cause deep under the sea, there isn't any lights but they also survive well right?
    [/quote]

    Well the deep water corals survive well. ;)
    But those probably aren't the ones you get at the store.

    Of the corals we can get, what are considered low-light corals generally require 2-3 watts of light per gallon.

    The corals that require a lot of light, generally it translates to around 5-10 watts per gallon.

    This is just a general rule of thumb. A lot of other things come into play like the depth of your tank and the kelvin rating of your lights.


    [quote author=Inuki link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#14 date=07/24/03 at 23:41:51]
    As for the sump and the protein skimmer, I really don't understand. If I go to the aquariam shop and ask them for sump and protein skimmer, do they understand what I want to buy?
    [/quote]

    Yes they will. :)

    You don't necessarily need a sump, but it's great for putting your hardware in it so it's not seen in your tank.

    I do recommend a protein skimmer though. They are great filters.
    This sounds like an old school plastic filter driven by air that has floss and carbon in it. Good for some freshwater setups, but not enough for 99% of the saltwater setups.

    A lot of people use Instant Ocean and like it. I used to use Coralife and like that. I also had Tropic Marin but stopped because it had phospates and that made me paranoid. Now I use natural salt water, but it can be hard to collect. heh. And hard to find a good source.

    Without seeing the filter, it's hard to say, but it's probably fine. A lot of bubbles don't hurt most of the time, unless you have sensitive fish like Sea Horses, then you will have to burp them a lot.

    From what you have told us so far I would recommend a better light fixture if you intend to keep corals and better filtration. Also read as much as you can. Learn about the nitrogen cycle, lighting requirements, skimmers, recommended fish, etc.. Try not to add any coral or fish until you think you have a good understanding of all this so you don't kill anymore.
    Sounds like your fishstore salesman is like many others, a salesman - interested in making money. Unfortunately the health of the fish and coral come last with those type of people.


    ;) :)
     
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  9. Craig Manoukian

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    [quote author=Inuki link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=0#14 date=07/24/03 at 23:41:51]

    the link you ask me to go to mention tank, pump and lights.[/quote]

    The link was to a section here at this web site. At the top of the page you will see "Steps", "Advanced", "Extras", and "Forums". Click on these to get to the drop down menus and you can find just about all the iformation you ar looking for.

    Matt covered the other questions you had very well, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Welcome from us to Singapore!


    :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::)
     
  10. Inuki

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    [quote author=Matt Rogers link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=15#15 date=07/25/03 at 10:54:27]Singapore!  :eek: 8) COOL!
    I hope you put that on the Member Map!

    Thanks for joining.  :)


    Well the deep water corals survive well.  ;)
    But those probably aren't the ones you get at the store.

    Of the corals we can get, what are considered low-light corals generally require 2-3 watts of light per gallon.

    The corals that require a lot of light, generally it translates to around 5-10 watts per gallon.

    This is just a general rule of thumb. A lot of other things come into play like the depth of your tank and the kelvin rating of your lights.



    Yes they will.  :)

    You don't necessarily need a sump, but it's great for putting your hardware in it so it's not seen in your tank.

    I do recommend a protein skimmer though. They are great filters.

    This sounds like an old school plastic filter driven by air that has floss and carbon in it. Good for some freshwater setups, but not enough for 99% of the saltwater setups.


    A lot of people use Instant Ocean and like it. I used to use Coralife and like that. I also had Tropic Marin but stopped because it had phospates and that made me paranoid. Now I use natural salt water, but it can be hard to collect. heh. And hard to find a good source.


    Without seeing the filter, it's hard to say, but it's probably fine. A lot of bubbles don't hurt most of the time, unless you have sensitive fish like Sea Horses, then you will have to burp them a lot.

    From what you have told us so far I would recommend a better light fixture if you intend to keep corals and better filtration. Also read as much as you can. Learn about the nitrogen cycle, lighting requirements, skimmers, recommended fish, etc.. Try not to add any coral or fish until you think you have a good understanding of all this so you don't kill anymore.
    Sounds like your fishstore salesman is like many others, a salesman  - interested in making money. Unfortunately the health of the fish and coral come last with those type of people.


    ;) :)
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    Where are you from? Singapore isn't that "COOL" it is so HOT, sometimes really make one frasutrated having such a HOT weather ;D ;D ;D

    The salt I am using now is Red Sea, you mean to say Instant OCean Salt would be better to mix with water and give a better sea water??

    And regarding the protein skimmer, if I have this protein skimmer, does it equal to a filter?

    protein skimmer = filter??

    So i won't have to put in filter and can take it out right?

    Thanks for helping me all the way.
     
  11. Inuki

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    [quote author=Craig_Manoukian link=board=Newbie;num=1058880761;start=15#16 date=07/25/03 at 12:51:31]

    The link was to a section here at this web site.  At the top of the page you will see "Steps", "Advanced", "Extras", and "Forums".  Click on these to get to the drop down menus and you can find just about all the iformation you ar looking for.

    Matt covered the other questions you had very well, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier.  Welcome from us to Singapore!


    :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::)[/quote]

    ok, my tank is all set, except for the ammonia and nirate testing. Thanks

    sorry, I just love to ask questions, cause over here, no one is helpful to answer my questions, no matter what kind of questions i ask, they will most of the time ignore me, except for my hubby who will always try to give me an answer ;D ;D ;) ;)
     
  12. Jason McKenzie

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    Hey Inuki, Glad you've stuck around.

    A protien skimmer isn't the same as a filter but does perform similar functions. In a salt water tank, todays theories say the best filter is Live Rock. This is rock that has been in the ocean long enough to allow all the little bugs and things to grow in it. These "Bugs" are what eat the Amonia and Nitirte that build up in an aquarium. The recomended amout of Live Rock (or LR) is 1.5 to 2 pounds per Gallon of water. So we need to know the size of your tank. it's 2.5 feet long but how wide is it and how deep. I think it's a 20G or a 29G but that depends on the hight.
    So if it's a 29 gallon tank the lenth is 30 inches the width is 12 inches and the hight is 18 inches. so you would need about 43.5 pounds of LR. plus a good skimmer (rated for 29G) and there would be no need for the bubble making filter


    as for the Salt it's ok to use Red Sea if you like the results. Easy mixing, consistant things like that are what some use to find a salt they like.

    Jason