HELP ... Levels to high

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  1. MMutch

    MMutch Astrea Snail

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    woke up this morning and all the fish are at the bottom breathing very fast water was perfect at least 3 days before

    PARAMETERS
    Temperature: 25.5
    PH: 8.0
    Ammonia: 0.2 was 0.3
    Nitrite: 110+
    Nitrate: 60+
    Salinity: 1.025
    Test kits you own: Hagen Nutrafin Master

    Liquid


    Tank size? 225L
    Estimated total system? 250L

    fish only

    Current inhabitants? 2x clownfish 1x yellow tang 1x emporer angle 1x regal tang 1x 3 spot domino damsel 1x humbug damsel
    Clean up crew?
    2x horse shoe crab

    How long has your tank been set-up? 6-7 months

    Substrate.
    Type? live sand
    Depth? 1-2 inch

    Live rock? dunno where from
    How much? about 6kg
    Did you recently add some? nope

    Filtration.
    Type? fluvial 305
    Protein skimmer? reef octopus bh-100 hob
    Do you wet or dry skim? wet
    Maintenance schedule for filtration? once a month

    Lighting.
    Lighting type? 4x 35w bulbs (2 white 2 antics)
    Age of bulbs? 6-7 months (same as tank)

    Feeding
    What? tetra marine granuales, mysis, dryed seawead, tetra marine crisps
    How much? once every day and a little in the everning every other

    Water change schedule.
    How much? 25L
    How often? once a week
    What salt brand? aqua world reef salt
    Water source? RO

    Do you have a ground probe? nope
    What kind of flow does your tank have? 3000 LPH

    Any additional info you would like to share.... the only thing i have done recently was change the carbon in the filter and changed the filter sponges for new ones as the old were really dirty but that was about a week ago so would have seen something sooner

    i have done a 75L water change to try to get the levels down but hasn't done much
     
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  3. Crimson Ghost

    Crimson Ghost Blue Ringed Angel

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    OK, I am heading to a meeting so I won't be around to help, but you are in good hands here.

    Start making up some water (RO/DI) - you will begin doing large water changes so you will need it. Your tank is way over loaded with excess nutrients. Hang in there, the folks here can help.
     
  4. inwall75

    inwall75 Giant Squid

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    While you're making more waterchange water, do you by any chance have any Seachem Prime. (It will detoxify Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrates temporarily). While I don't normally like air bubblers in a reef tank due to salt creep, raising your dissolved Oxygen can be helpful right now too.
     
  5. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    What other biological media did you have in the cannister?
    the detoxifier as mentioned above by Inwall is ideal for this emergency

    but for levels to reach that high on such a short period, I feel you must have thrown away the bulk of your biological filtration capaciy when you threw away the old sponges?

    its a 60 gallon tank , with a couple of messy feeders in there and only 12lb of live rock

    thats what makes me feel the issue is caused by throwing away the sponges

    Steve
     
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  6. pstroh

    pstroh Plankton

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    Are you sure you don't have something dead in your tank that is decaying? Also, how new is the tank, has it been cycled properly.
     
  7. homegrowncorals

    homegrowncorals Ribbon Eel

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    + 1 on this statement
    what type of filtering system do you use on this tank??
     
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  9. homegrowncorals

    homegrowncorals Ribbon Eel

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    i was thinking the same thing about the sponges.
     
  10. MMutch

    MMutch Astrea Snail

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    Seachem Prime i dont have any of that ill go out in a min and try and get some if i have time as i have work soon :angry: if not ill ask if a friends of mine can get it for me

    when it comes to the filter i only changed the two carbon and sponges the rest was left in there it consists of 6 chambers to which i have in 3 of them bio rods that came with the filter in 1 chamber some rowaphoss and then the last two of carbon but i do believe that doing the sponges has at least been a major contributor if not the cause

    im posative the i haven't got anything dead in there as there all accounted for

    i use a external canaster filter i know its not the best for marine but the stand the tank came with wont allow me to put a sump in and i dont have enough money at the moment to buy/build a new stand and be able to swap it all over but once i get some more money i want to get a bigger tank that has a sump

    but ill go put in my air pump to help get more oxygen in there
     
  11. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    Good Luck MMutch

    if you or they cant get sea chem prime - Chemi pure elite is an option as is Seachems Purigen - there will be others (cant think of them all and it often depends where you are located as to whats available) so make sure the LFS knows what you want to buy and why

    you need a chemical band aid for your filter system to reduce these high levels

    prime is quick - but the others will certainly help get the water back on track , coupled with some water changes

    Steve
     
  12. iLLwiLL

    iLLwiLL Sailfin Tang

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    If you cant find prime, amquel plus is more or less the same thing. Still waiting to hear back on how long this tank has been setup.

    ~Will.