Help my Frogspawn

Yes, there are much better pH tests. I can't read the API ones either. I got this and I LOVE it so much. Life is so much easier with this, I can check it on a whim now. About 20 bucks on eBay new.

If the frogspawn is your only real calcium user... and since you're doing routine water changes... I wouldn't think you need to dose Ca at all. At least not yet.

I, personally, wouldn't dose trace elements for any reason. It will include things you don't need and are not testing for which could potentially cause problems. Plus, your WC's should cover it.

Moving up for more light is a reasonable suggestion... more importantly, IMO, is to give it less flow.

It looks like a nonbranching frogspawn to me. The torch's I've seen have very very bright tips... this one looks duller.

Definitely a Euphyllia though


Also, in related note, I have a hammer, frogspawn and a torch. The torch never did do great while the other two open real nice. The torch ended up falling apart (literally). Probably was a flow issue and too much light. I believe the torch's want the least light of these three.

 

Thanks for all the replies everybody! I was definitely panicking a little bit, haha. I think at this point that it was a lighting issue. When I came home this evening, I thought the poor thing wouldn't make it through the night, but within two hours of moving it to the top of my rock even the part I had given up on has sprung back to life! I've included some before and after pics. The "sick coral" pic most closely represents the color of it in my tank. A nice dark metallic green with almost white tips.

I'd like to know exactly what I have here. The LFS guy sold it as Frogspawn, but he also told me that the difference between True and False Perculas is that one comes from the ocean and the other is tank-bred, so... :-/

How much flow is too much? It gets a gentle "swirl" of current every couple of seconds, but it isn't constantly buffeted or anything.

PS- Don't laugh at all my algae! The snails and hermits are working their way through it, and I can actually see some of the rock I paid all that money for again!

 

I'm almost 100% you have a torch coral. Do a Google image search for "torch coral" to see the similarities.

 

Its a torch coral and seeing the looks of that water its in the Ca and DKH are way way to low and there may be some sort of mineral or metal in the system those rocks look like hell . When was the last time you tested the Ca DKH and Mag levels of that tank and are you using good R/O D.I source water for your water changes ?

 

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Id like to add

the placement its in is not ideal, IMO it does not seem to be able to extend without touching the surrounding rock - it needs to be secure but lifted clear and away from anything sharp like rockwork -

They dont do well if they are knocked against of fall over onto sharp/ rough surfaces when opened or partially opened , hence base of tank or lower rock levels and very secure (glue or epoxy to hold them firm) are best locations IME

Id also suggest checking for Phosphate and Nitrates as these 2 nutrients may also explain its unhealthy appearance.

IME - I have had a few different torches over the years - one lesson I learned early was that you need to make sure you dont pour top off water, or new salt water anywhere near them, in my early days, I had 2 different ones where single heads have decayed and on both occasions it was due to my clumsiness with the bucket of water at water change time
so keep that new water well away from them


Steve

 

I still say it looks like a frogspawn. More so after googling them.

What are you seeing that makes you say that? Is it the amount of algae or the bubbles on the rocks or something else? A bit surprised one can judge the Ca and dKH levels from looking at a picture of water. Not disagreeing with you, just wondering what makes you say that.

 

I'm still sticking with torch coral

Torch:

http://www.themarinecenter.com/media/photos/D8E0D4E98D3A42CAB62AE8A74D6F5857A.jpg
http://www.livestockusa.org/torch3.jpg
http://www.missreeftank.net/images/gallery3/images/8-9-05_torch2.jpg

Frogspawn(s)

http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/product/p-82677-frogspawn.jpg
http://www.coralreefecosystems.com/images/17100/frogspawn-green.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/395027586_6a8e03afb7.jpg


Notice that frogspawns all have several "nubs" (for lack of a scientific term) on the tip of each polyp where torches only have one.

 

I'm going to guess that it's the color of the water.

 

To be honest with you it doesnt look too bad give it some time and flow!