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  1. fishnoob101

    fishnoob101 Astrea Snail

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    Seachem Purigen 2L

    Have Any of you tried this and does it do what it claims?
    $89.99

    Purigen® is a premium synthetic adsorbent that is unlike any other filtration product. It is not a mixture of ion exchangers or adsorbents, but a unique macro-porous synthetic polymer that removes soluble and insoluble impurities from water at a rate and capacity that exceeds all others by over 500%. Purigen® controls ammonia, nitrites and nitrates by removing nitrogenous organic waste that would otherwise release these harmful compounds. Purigen’s™ impact on trace elements is minimal. It significantly raises redox. It polishes water to unparalleled clarity. Purigen® darkens progressively as it exhausts, and is easily renewed by treating with bleach. Purigen® is designed for both marine and freshwater use.

    Why It's Different
    Selectivity: Purigen® is the highest capacity organic filtration resin on the market. No other products can compare to its ability to clear haziness and polish water to unparalleled clarity. Unlike other products on the market which are simple ion-exchange resins, Purigen® is specifically designed to be an organic scavenging resin. When ion-exchange resins are filled to capacity by metals and other contaminants, Purigen® has barely begun to reach its potential. Purigen® generally ignores simple elemental compounds, having an extreme affinity for nitrogenous organics. The primary source of nitrogenous compounds in an aquarium is waste. Fish, corals, even plants produce nitrogenous waste. Purigen® removes that waste faster and more completely than anything else on the market.

    Capacity
    Purigen’s™ possesses enhanced capacity owing to its vast surface area. All other resins on the market are purely spherical extruded beads. These beads remain smooth even under a microscope. Purigen® is both spherical and macroreticular. It has microscopic pores that increase its usable surface area to many times that of a purely spherical resin.

    Regeneration
    Purigen® can also be regenerated. As it adsorbs waste products, Purigen® will change color from a pale blonde to a dark brown, almost black. Once it is exhausted, it can be regenerated with a solution of bleach and water. The bleach will literally “burn off” the organics that have been removed from the tank. Watch out for products that claim to be regenerable with a brine solution. That is the regeneration procedure for ion-exchange purposes. A brine solution will not remove organics. While such resins have a limited capacity for organic adsorption, a brine regeneration process only replaces removed ionic compounds. It does not destroy large organic molecules that were removed, which is the primary function of organic adsorption resins.

    Directions
    Rinse before use. Use in a fine mesh filter bag. Each 1 L treats up to 4,000 L (1,000 gallons*) for up to six months. Exhaustion is indicated by a pronounced discoloration of the beads to dark brown or black.

    Regeneration
    Soak in a 1:1 bleach:water solution for 24 hours in a non-metalic container in a well ventilated area and away from children. Rinse well, then soak for 8 hours with a solution containing 2 tablespoons of ChlorGuard™, Prime®, or equivalent dechlorinator per cup of water. Rinse well. Original color and full activity should now be restored and Purigen® is ready for reuse. Caution: some slime coat products may permanently foul Purigen® and render regeneration difficult. Do not reuse if odor of chlorine is detectable. In case of doubt, soak beads in small quantity of water and test for residual chlorine with a chlorine test kit
     
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  3. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    been using that product since 2009

    it seems to do exactly what it claims
    It last 3 or 4 months in my set up, I replace with alternative pouch and regenerate the pouch that was just used

    water clarity did improve when I started using it

    Steve
     
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    Good stuff ,been using it a few years as well.
     
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    Gresham Great Blue Whale

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    Same here... but since like 2000 (on and off)
     
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  6. fishnoob101

    fishnoob101 Astrea Snail

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    holy mackerel, its the holy grail. :)
    Its on Like Donky Kong I am going to get me some :)

    Thanks Guys one more question?

    Is there any problems running SEACHEM PHOSGUARD and Seachem Purigen at the same time as long as I have them each in their own Phos reactor?

    Also how much of each to treat a 180 GAL?
    Thank you very much for your help :)
     
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  7. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    what corals are you keeping fishnoob?

    Seachem Phosguard is an aluminum based phosphate remover and some people have experienced issues with typically leather and toadstool type corals reacting badly to the aluminum content ( its not always the case, but it does happen and as such making you aware of the potential is a good idea IMO)
    If you do have now, or possibly considering those coral types a GFO (iron based) alternative may be a better option

    Steve
     
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  9. fishnoob101

    fishnoob101 Astrea Snail

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    Oh I have a little pink? leather in there and some green ones that look like kennya? trees and some mushrooms the others are mostly hard corals I do have a lot of zoa's
     
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    fishnoob101 Astrea Snail

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    Is there a good Iron based one that doesnt cost an arm and a leg and will not release toxins back into the water if I am not right on top of it?
    Thaks Steve :)
     
  11. steve wright

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    I would suggest using the Phosgaurd with caution then
    being prepared to remove it and swap with an alternative phosphate removal media (GFO) if your leather type corals start closing down more frequently and for longer periods than they have been doing previously

    Steve
     
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    The BRS - GFO represents good value for money IMO
    Rowaphos is a bit more expensive but it seems to perform very well in a pouch in a cannister for me , it is more resistant to compacting than other GFO brands I have used previously

    whatever product you do decide to use
    if it will be 1st time using a phosphate remover, start with 50% of what the instructions tell you to use
    leave that a week and then replace with another 50%
    after that 2 weeks, you can move up to suggested quantity and change it monthly or more or less that often, depending on tank conditions

    Steve