How can I attach my coral frags to rock!?!

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  1. TheSurgeonSween

    TheSurgeonSween Fire Shrimp

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  3. rocketmandb

    rocketmandb Ocellaris Clown

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    I actually prefer to use a combo of two part epoxy along with gel super glue. Depending on the size of the frag, I've found super glue alone to work only marginally well.

    The process I use is:

    - Mix up a small amount of two part epoxy
    - Break off a little ball of it appropriate to the size of the frag you want to place
    - Put a blob of super glue gel on the piece of epoxy. This should not be so large that it would cover much of the sides of the frag. Obviously, any portions covered will die off.
    - Firmly press the frag into the gel/epoxy.
    - Place a generous amount of gel on the side of the epoxy ball opposite of the frag.
    - Place the frag where you want it on the live rock by firmly pushing the epoxy base into the rock.

    The reason I like this better is that the epoxy dramatically increases the holding ability on the rock since it gets into the crevices and locks in. Super glue gel doesn't provide remotely close to the same structural support. The only times recently that I haven't used this method is when I've run out of epoxy and forgot to buy more. On more than one of those occasions I've had issues with the frag holding.
     
  4. blackraven1425

    blackraven1425 Giant Squid

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    For small frags of SPS, I just use super glue gel, as they'll encrust and attach themselves to the rock better than we can attach them anyways.

    For LPS and big pieces of SPS, I'll uses the method above of rock/glue/epxoy/glue/coral.
     
  5. fishyfinder

    fishyfinder Teardrop Maxima Clam

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    very cool. This is how I do mine too, only with krazy super glue. I have a spot I wanna place a piece of coral, but it's on the very bottom rock. I don't want to pull the rocks out. I don't know if this will work underwater, because the glue gets pretty hard once in the water.
     
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    link248 Ritteri Anemone

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    if you put alot on the frag, it sould work. That is the video I can't find, the one were the guy is doing it under water.
     
  7. kiwiroo

    kiwiroo Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Do I just find the 2 part epoxy at somewhere like home depot? I'm surprised none of these or the super glue are toxic at all, do they just not disolve or permeate into the water?
     
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  9. smoyer

    smoyer Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    I use crazy glue gel control it comes in a grey and blue bottle.
     
  10. rocketmandb

    rocketmandb Ocellaris Clown

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    I buy the two part epoxy at my local fish store. There are a few different types, one looks suspiciously like Mighty Putty, the stuff you see on TV that is a roll with a green outside and grey inside. You cut off a uniform slice and mix it together in your hands for a few minutes.

    I do see little clouds come out of the epoxy when I put it in the tank and press it against rock, but it doesn't cause any harm. The super glue gel just stays as a glob in the tank. The only harm I've ever heard it doing is recently someone wrote here about their clown fish taking a bite of a freshly glued frag and getting its mouth glued shut :)
     
  11. trapstar991

    trapstar991 Feather Duster

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    super glue gel is what you want or reef epoxy even a rubberband works but id never use that method
     
  12. blackraven1425

    blackraven1425 Giant Squid

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    There's also stuff for 1/3rd the price at Lowes or Home Depot, in the plumbing section.

    Gel type super glues work great, but they develop a skin if they're in water for even a second. So when you squeeze the tube, it'll almost immediately have a skin of dried glue on it. You have to be smart about using it. Put a dab of glue on the bottom of the frag. Twist and squish the blob so that the dried outer skin gets pulled and breaks, and you can hit the rock with that to get it to attach.