Ich...qt.....hyposalinity

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  1. Crimson Ghost

    Crimson Ghost Blue Ringed Angel

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    I beleive is fresh water ich is Ichthyphthirius and Marine ich is Cryptocaryon.

    This is where many (many) people are divided - some think its always there others say its impossible and must be introduced. Not worth getting into the discussion (in my opinion)

    If you think its introduced than QT all additions do not hypo-anything clearly this is just stress to a fish. But QT and then go to your DT and be safe.
     
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  3. puma

    puma Flamingo Tongue

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    If its a tang I wouldnt put it in a QT. I would put it straight into the DT cuz even if you start it in a QT and then move it to the DT there is a good chance it could break out with ich anyways. The less stress on the fish the better especially when you are dealing with tangs
     
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    I stand corrected with the fresh water and marine Ich. The safer way to go is a regular QT.
     
  5. rounder24h7d

    rounder24h7d Plankton

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    From all of my reading, marine ich can't be present in a system unless introduced by a host--a fish, and can't survive hyposalinity. Is stress is the issue, and stress makes a fish more vulnerable, bringing about the symptoms of ich....and they are already stressed from the move from the LFS(which is more stressful than hypo treatment), how bad can hypo from the jump(as a precaution)...i mean, if signs of ich are shown in the DT, i would have to QT and hypo--same amount of stress...
    My puffer showed no signs at the LFS. but he obviously carried ich b/c he has it...so inspecting for signs the the LFS isn't 100%.
    I just dont want to put anything in my tank that has ich...carries ich.... putting a tang in who carries ich, but doesnt show signs, still infects my tank--putting furture fish at risk
    so, isn't this logical.... i mean...some people do a freeshwater dip b4 QT...that's zero salinity...i'm talking 1.010 fo 6-8wks
     
  6. Siddique

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    Ich can only be brought on by introducing an already contaminated fish, stress and a rapid change in temperature.
    The hypo salinity IMO stresses a fish out more than shipping it overseas.
    But if that's what you think is best, by all means, give it a try. Just be sure to drip it very slowly when you bring it home and don't just dump it into the hypo tank.
     
  7. Crimson Ghost

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    ...and some people are idoits too.

    Like I said, opinions vary. Bottom line is its your tank, your fish so you do it your way. It’s probably a good idea to QT your fish before going into your DT – but if there are no signs of Ich why would you attempt to treat for it? Hypo (in my opinion) is more harmful to the fish than to Ich.
     
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  9. Siddique

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    I agree 100%.
    Also, I would only do A FW dip if it's my last chance to save a fish from a severely progressed fungus or bacterial infection.
     
  10. rounder24h7d

    rounder24h7d Plankton

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    perhaps i'm giving ich too much credit... i mean, how harmful is it?... i guess i never really read on that. it can be treated easily, yes...it's not fatal, necessarily, right? i read that it can be likened to the common cold. i just figured that if ich is the most common problem/disease, why not nip it in the bud..... so i was wondering what people thought about hypo as a precaution....alot of mixed opinions
    Is it likely that if a new fish has ich, it will eventually show in a regular QT over the course of 6wks?
    Though stressful, how effective is copper? does it kill the ich, or only make it go away.
    If it's likely that a fish will show ich during QT, then i guess it would make sense to not use hypo automatically...as i can treat it appropriatly
    But, if the likeliness is low, or unkown, that's why i consider hypo
    My puffer didn't show ich till after the 6wk mark, so he would have gone in the DT(had he been in QT), exposing the tank, and it future mates..
    Dunno...thanx for all feedback
     
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    Crypto can be handled - but it can be a killer. Your idea of playing it safe and QT'g your new arrival is a good idea - if it shows signs of Cypto then address it as you see fit.