ID this type of coral i found at the LFS.

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  1. Daniel072

    Daniel072 Giant Squid

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    ok I must chime in here. Unless you can guarantee that there will absolutely be no ammonia spike at all, it is EXTREMELY WRECKLESS putting corals in an uncycled tank. Let's take packs experience for example, I"m sure that PL knew exactly where his rock was coming from and trusted the source. The rock was probably extremely well cured therefore no cycle taking place. When I moved my tank, I put my corals in a brand new tank but my rock was well cured and there wasn't a cycle. You can put frags and corals into a frag tank without much worry but when you start adding fish, there's gonna be a cycle and the coral's health will deteriorate. With this all being said, if you don't know where your rock is coming from, I would wait for the cycle and the stability coming from a cycled tank before I would add corals.
     
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  3. oceanparadise1

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    No hurt feelings here :) this is one thing i hate about text you cant display emotions and things get taken wrong thus if thats the case im sorry :) i love the lil heart between us lol



    dan, i will have to disagree i think its much harder on fish then corals, ive always put corals in a tank from day one and know many others who have to with no ill effects
     
  4. Daniel072

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    I miss our little disagreements and here is a big one. I think it is completely silly to think that tossing a coral other than zoas, shrooms or something to that effect is ok. If this is the case, why isn't it the norm to add corals before the cycle even gets going?? It's not the norm and there's a reason for it.
     
  5. horkn

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    I am with Daniel on the LR thing. If you know the state of the LR before you bought it, or if it was your own from your old established tank, then it will work. But if that rock was never truly cured, you might be in for some issues. I have over 20 years of SW experience, and was a biology student for most of my 7 year college career. You don't need to necessarily take it super slow, but you have to know what you are working with otherwise you can make a big mistake.
     
  6. swagger87

    swagger87 Zoanthid

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    ;DNo prob
     
  7. oceanparadise1

    oceanparadise1 Fire Squid

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    The norm is bc people worry to much, ive done it many times with no ill effects, if you stay on top of everything, theres no reason you cant do it. Also agree with the LR thing, but even if i had semi cured live rock like i have before it was fine.


    Now, would i throw up a tank with brand new LR that is totally non cured no, but semi cured yup ill toss my corals in from day one
     
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  9. Daniel072

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    You just keep doing that. No way I would do it or ever hap-hazardly recommend anyone that is new to the hobby to do it. It's just too wreckless. Besides that, sps don't usually do too well with the possible algae bloom and diatom bloom that will most likely happen
     
  10. oceanparadise1

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    thanks dont worry i will :) like i said before if it aint broke dont fix it. I think people make this hobby alot harder then need be some time :) Like ive said before, what works for one doesnt always work for another.
     
  11. ReefSparky

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    It's generally accepted that corals need nearly pristine water quality. To place corals in an environment where one expects spikes in ammonia and nitrites is probably not best practice.

    While I can't dispute personal experience, if that's what it is--to me, an attitude of "it's absolutely no problem" and do it "all the time," goes against everything I know to be true in the hobby.

    If you're a newcomer to these boards, read as much as you can. Remember that varying opinions are the norm. Keep in mind that in general, popular sentiment is usually more apt to be true than the occasional claim to the opposite. Failures in this hobby are pricey, but killing animals out of ignorance is hard to justify. :-/
     
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  12. mattheuw1

    mattheuw1 Montipora Capricornis

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    I'm with sparky.

    I never knew corals liked ammonia! O yea, I think I did see it in the favia profile to prefer instability with nitrates, nitrite and ammonia. Haha. Everyone has their own opinion and maybe it works, but it is by no means the best for the corals. They may make it through the experience but these are living things, not rocks. Your goal as a reefer is to keep them alive, hearty and thriving. Intentionally setting up a tank knowing that there are going to be horrible things happening to the water is irresponsible. Not the best advice for a beginner and it could be taken the wrong way by noobs. Maybe for some of the experts, doing something like this is possible in a pinch, but not preferred especially when there are other options then "Just do it".
     
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