Is this a poor man's calcium reactor?

Discussion in 'Filters, Pumps, etc..' started by Matt Rogers, Jan 16, 2006.

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  1. Blade_Runner

    Blade_Runner Gigas Clam

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    You're welcome. :)

    Neat idea, isn't it?

    Too bad it won't work for me. I'm 100% mechanical on my top off and don't want to risk crudding out the float valve. Otherwise I tend to replace 4-5 gal/day on the 300. That should leach out some CA.
     
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  3. Matt Rogers

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    Yeah that's too bad. Do you have the kent float valve? Because I used to dose kalk water with that and clean it now and then. Go for it! C'mon! :wink3: heheh.. Don't leave me on my own here! :)

    Well hopefully it will work with my setup. It seems safe and I don't have much SPS. I can see Covey's point though if I were SPS dominant. But a big point to me is that it beats just adding straight RO water to the tank as far as I can tell. I'll test my water in a while and see if there is any difference and report back. I love messing around! ;)
     
  4. Michaelr5

    Michaelr5 Coral Banded Shrimp

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    I think I will try it too, Matt. With my DIY float valve, It should not cause any issues!

    Mike
     
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    Blade_Runner Gigas Clam

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    I'm using a modified Randy's mix and currently not even dripping it in. I toss a measured amount of A&C in once a day. (I am going to set up drip buckets for both.) I put the initial rock in Thanksgiving weekend and currently my CA is running between 430-440, ALK is 300ish and Ph is 8.2. Ammonia, NO3, and NO2 are 0. I'm supplementing with Kent Coral Vit and iodine. I've got lime green 1st stage coralline growing all over the place along with older established purple. Happy Zoos, Stars, Hammer, Leather, some free SPS and a clam. I'm seeing sponges, and fans popping out all over the place. The initial brown algae bloom was mild and 90+% gone.

    I sure hope I'm not cursing myself but everyone in the tank including 11 fish (5 are tangs), 24 Mexican turbos and a coral banded shrimp seem to be very happy campers. I really am shocked that the tank has matured this fast and has been so stable. Maybe the huge sump and skimmer have helped.

    I think I'm going to stick with the original game plan for a while. :)

    As long as I'm rambling... My main problem, for the moment, is micro bubbles. The pressure needed to raise the water from the basement just seems to produce them. I'm still playing with the ball valves to try to shake them without reducing the total turnover in the tank. I'm really trying to stay at what I'm guessing is a minimum of 3600 to 4000 gph. I may be significantly over that. I'm just not sure how to measure it. I have pretty well maxed out the flow in the sump.
     
  6. Matt Rogers

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    Sounds like you have a good thing going. I wouldn't change it either!

    Back to the subject, something from a Bob Goemans' book - Water Quality Guidelines for Marine Aquariums booklet (page 46):

    "The Aragonite Solution
    When purified water is used for water changes or evaporation makeup it
    contains no calcium. And its pH, especially that of reverse osmoses and deionized
    water is usually quite low, e.g., 6. 5. Now take into consideration the
    aragonite particle enters a condition of equilibrium at a pH of 8.2. That is to say it
    begins the reversal of the very process that originally formed the particle
    and starts to dissolve. This can be quite beneficial, as the aragonite particle
    is about 97% calcium.
    Most of us have seen calcium reactors where carbon dioxide is used to lower
    pH to a point where the water becomes acidic enough to dissolve its calcareous
    gravel. But, what if you didn’t need carbon dioxide to accomplish a "modest"
    dissolution process. Why not use RO or DI water to dissolve some aragonite
    gravel in a storage container. Water with such a low pH is an excellent solvent
    for almost any type calcareous gravel. Yet aragonite, because it is so pure, is
    a much better choice than crushed coral or oyster shell and contains much less
    phosphate.
    I should note this method is not for maintaining the calcium level in a reef
    aquarium. It is simply a process by which the water used for evaporation
    make-up or water changes will be "enhanced" prior to use. I use about 50 pounds of
    aragonite in a strong plastic container that in turn holds about 35 gallons of
    RO and DI water. It is occasionally stirred to prevent any anaerobic areas
    from forming. When water is needed for my aquarium it is drawn from this
    container and what is remaining is topped-off with more purified water that is stored
    in other large containers. I have found enhanced water to contain somewhere
    between 50 to 100 ppm of calcium and have a pH of 8.4. I want to thank Leo
    Wojcik for this idea."
     
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    Blade_Runner Gigas Clam

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    Interesting read, but did I hear the word Phosphate?
     
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  9. Matt Rogers

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    Yeah. But not so much if you use aragonite. (And probably the same as a real calcium reactor. ) I do use a phosphate pad in my sump though.

    I should note that the way he does it is more passive than mine.
    I force all water through the reactor. So maybe I am getting more calcium? Anyone have a freshwater calcium kit? :square:
     
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  10. Covey

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    You could take a water sample. Then add table salt to get the SG right then test for Calcium if you were curious.
     
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    Blade_Runner Gigas Clam

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    Well if you do get a little extra Phosphate I see it as a great excuse to get some Giant Clams. :D They like phosphate and remove it from the tank. ;)
     
  12. Michaelr5

    Michaelr5 Coral Banded Shrimp

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    I found this while crusing Premium Aquatic's site. Has anyone heard of it and what do you think? Sounds a little like what's on this thread doesn't it?

    Mike

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