Is this refugium correct

Discussion in 'Refugium' started by Tbstr3, Nov 14, 2010.

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  1. WhiskyTango

    WhiskyTango Eyelash Blennie

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    I agree with everything stated above, and if it were mine I'd go overflow to skimmer to fuge section to return section in that order. Also, if you put a 4 inch 200 micron filter sock on your skimmer effluent you eliminate the need for a bubble trap which gives you more space. Get rid of the gravel; you want a fine sand DSB or a few chunks of LR.


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  3. Tbstr3

    Tbstr3 Skunk Shrimp

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    is it dier need that i change it my tank is actually doing good for once do you think the way it is set up it is affecting anything at this time i fdont get any micro bublles or anything
     
  4. Tbstr3

    Tbstr3 Skunk Shrimp

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    i get what you guys are saying but the way it is and the way you guys are recommending it would be about the same except the bubble trp would be closer to the return but if im not getting micro bubbles it shouldnt matter i would think could be wrong
     
  5. 2in10

    2in10 Super Moderator

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    With the way you have it you most likely are not getting the optimum benefit of the refugium.
     
  6. Tbstr3

    Tbstr3 Skunk Shrimp

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    ok ill switch it around some day soon here thanks
     
  7. Tbstr3

    Tbstr3 Skunk Shrimp

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    corrections made how about this now
     

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  9. trijam

    trijam Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Looks like if you clean up the algae in the return you'd be good to go. You wouldn't want any of it getting chopped up and sent to your display tank.:)
     
  10. Powerman

    Powerman Giant Squid

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    You need to do some research and not just ask questions. You need to understand WHY you are doing things.

    The only true right way is to split your drain and put the return pump in the middle of the refugium and the skimmer section. The fuge and the skimmer both need raw unfiltered water. If the skimmer comes first, then you deprive the fuge of nutrients. If the fuge comes first then you skim out pods. Plenty of people do one or the other, but one is not necessarily better than the other. If I had to choose I would have left it the way you had it only to keep the pods going straight to the display. But ya... bubble traps are to remove micro bubbles from the skimmer so it needs to be after the skimmer not before.

    What you need to do right now is get rid of the gravel. Nothing but a poop trap and it will become a nitrate factory. The gravel is way too big and will only get clogged with ditritus. DSBs offer their own benefits. It's up to you to decide if you want one. But putting gravel or rubble or live rock in the sump is of no real benefit and only offers possible problems.
     
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  11. Tbstr3

    Tbstr3 Skunk Shrimp

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    so either way ive had this set up the pods will never make it to the DT because the skimmer is before the return your saying i also dont get the idea of how pods will even make it through the return pump that makes no sense at all and am starting to believe these things are just a place to store your equipment and arent benefcial on a small scale at all
     
  12. blackraven1425

    blackraven1425 Giant Squid

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    Pods will make it through the pump, for sure. Do you even know how small one of those guys is? I mean, if you don't, look at the period at the end of this sentence, and half it. The pump doesn't ever even hit the pods, because there will always be water being pushed OFF of the impeller (pushing pods away), and most of the water going through the pump won't even hit the impeller anyway.

    Being a "place to store your equipment" in and of itself is absolutely beneficial. Look at how ugly a tank can get with a bunch of HOB equipment (skimmer especially....eww). Beyond that, there's the increased water volume (good for stability), return section (can't put an ATO anywhere else without salinity swings), macroalgae and/or sandbed for denitrification, and pod production for your fish. Just because it's "small scale" doesn't make it good for nothing. You just need to know what you're doing, set it up properly, and give it time to show you what it can do.

    This is the ideal way to setup a sump:

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    (I think I've drawn this about 10 times already, so I need to make it better each time. I busted out the spray can and pencil, just for you.)
     
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