Kalkwasser -w/vinegar?

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  1. conjuay

    conjuay Feather Duster

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    I have been reading up on kalkwasser all over the web. The amount of lime in various recipes range all over the map. Teaspoon per liter, teaspoon per quart, -teaspoon per gallon!

    Dump out the solids on the bottom, reuse the solids for your next batch, mix only a day's worth, mix a month's worth,

    AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Then I find one that says to add vinegar to prevent precipitation!

    Anyone got the straight simple scoop on mixing and using this stuff?:confused:
    TANKS!
    MYKE
     
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  3. mattgeezer

    mattgeezer Montipora Capricornis

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  4. conjuay

    conjuay Feather Duster

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    yeah, this is the one where the vinegar is recommended.
    Seems counter-intuitive, adding an acid to fortify a base.

    I will re-read this...
    thanks, Mattgeezer
     
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  5. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    From my understanding, vinegar is added to lower the level of ph in kalk. Kalk has a ph of around 12.0 and some ppl already have their ph at a good level so they add vinegar. I, on the other hand, dont add vinegar b/c my ph is always a little low. Luna
     
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  6. coral reefer

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    As lunatik 69 so nicely stated...that is the reason for dosing vinegar with kalkwasser! Lowering of the pH value of the kalkwasser solution.
     
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  7. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    Let me know how that vinegar works out for you , I had a guy here to tell me a few months ago what he was going to do with the vinegar I asked why ? Seems its all the rage in some circles , Well if he See's the string I hope he chimes in and let him do all the typing .. I'll just say I would not mess with the K/W in the first place if I wanted to add Acids to off set it .

    Darren if you see this chime in with what vinegar it did for your systems..
     
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  9. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    I dont know the effects of adding vinegar, but my common sense says not to do it. I only add Kalk and thats it. Luna
     
  10. glassbox-design

    glassbox-design Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    vinegar lowers the PH allowing more CaOH to be on solution. It's only needed if you are a) carbon dosing or b) cannot satisfy cal/alk demands with the typical kalk saturation levels.

    HTH.
     
  11. coral reefer

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    You can get around this dilema somewhat by dosing kalkwasserat night time, since the pH of your tank often drops due to a stop in photosynthesis, unless you are running a reverse daylight refugium scheme.