losing the algea battle

Discussion in 'Algae' started by truck24000, Apr 27, 2008.

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  1. truck24000

    truck24000 Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    ok my tank is a year old this month!
    just did testing and is as follows
    PH- 8.4
    Amon- 0
    nitrite- 0
    nitrate- 0
    phos- 0
    calc- 400
    kh- 4dkh or 71.6
    salinity- 1.024
    lightin is a coralife 150w x 2 MH HQI / with 2 acintic 96w blue compacts
    timed for acintics one hour before MH and one hour after, MH are on for 2 hours only due to hair algea growth. lights are only 4 months old purchased new in box from LFS.
    cleaner crew consists of 20 blue leg hermits
    10 dwarf scarlet crabs
    10 nasarius snails
    12 - 15 asst. snails
    5 mexican turbos
    1 royal tuxedo urchin
    LM Bleeny
    see signature for rest of tank in habitants

    only problem i have had is HAIR ALGEA IS EVERYWERE NOW!!!!
    even in fuge/sump growing all over my cheeto
     
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  3. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    You forgot Mag and your dkh is way low, should be at least 8-12, I think thats your problem. Are you over feeding, tank next to a window?
     
  4. ardo_ski

    ardo_ski Peppermint Shrimp

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    Well you test readings may sow 0 for Nitrates and P04 due to the Algae consuming them. Seems to be a lot of fish for a 75 reef tank. Couple questions.

    1) Are you ising a RO\DI Filter?
    2) How much do you feed?
    3)What do you feed?
    4) DKH are on the low side also.
     
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  5. Jason McKenzie

    Jason McKenzie Super Moderator

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    Great points. need answers on RO/DI and feeding

    I would also say too many fish in a 75G
    Also what skimmer are you using?

    J
     
  6. truck24000

    truck24000 Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    yes i use ro water as for feeding i use mysis shrimp every other day but i change to flake food sometimes as well as krill and also a frozen cube i buy from the LFS i never feed more then once aday and all fish seem very happy as well as corals doing great also

    as for mag testing i am waiting to go to lfs to get one as the last one is all gone (got from a friend)

    as for the skimmer it is a coralife skimmer rated for my tank, cant remember for sure though

    the dkh i know is low and i am raising that as we speak, just doing it slowely thats all.

    thanks for all the help everyone

    Matt
     
  7. Bogie

    Bogie Snowflake Eel

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    Keep raising the alk slowly to about 10 dkh, and put some PhosGuard in a nylon mesh bag in your sump where the water will flow through it. Good luck.
     
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  9. truck24000

    truck24000 Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    tank is near a window but blinds always closed as it looks right into the neighbors bathroom:yaknow: LOL
     
  10. truck24000

    truck24000 Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    after reading more posts on here i think i might have part of the problem
    my temp stays right around 80-81f
    dont know really how to get it lowere then that
    my lights sit on legs attached to the tank
    roughly about 6 inches of the surface
    should i try a fan to blow across between lights and surface?
     
  11. KOgle

    KOgle Zoanthid

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    I'd get a fan and get those levels up. Also you mentioned you never feed more than once per day. It's not an issue to only feed your tank every 2 - 3 days. You might try that to reduce the amount of uneaten food in the system as well as reduce the amount of fishy do do. ;)

    I agree with your readings saying zero becasue of how fast the algae can consume the excess nutrients. I've just been through this same battle and finally nuked the tank.:eek:
     
  12. Tangster

    Tangster 3reef Sponsor

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    can you post a good tight picture of this algae ? It may be a horse of a totally different color ? It very well could be Bryopsis pennata that you are doing battle with .. And if you used L/Rock or sand its just raises the odds against you not having this pest. Or just use the name and do a search you'll find a ton of info and pictures .

    I have been fighting with this for how ever long I have been in Ct.. and I can't make a dent in it. Amcarrig had a 90 to be over ran with it from some live rock 8 yrs ago or so. I had some to get into our new 180 on a coral and now Its been a up hill battle with it. I sent a sample off to be sure what I had ): I took some to work and matched it perfectly to some slides the Boss had and then as I said to be sure I sent some to a buddy in Va. Who works for the State at the Chesapeake Bay foundation Program .. He confirmed it and its a killer and a Beautch to kill off ..Know your enemy :)