Man Puts Live Neon Tetras In His Phone

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  1. fazool666

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    Looks like something else to distract people behind the wheel - "sorry I put that biker into a coma officer but I needed to feed my fish!"
     
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  3. xmetalfan99

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    I get the feeling you are anti-hunting. Worry less about the dam tetras and more about the people around you who need help. I am sure you have watched those commercials with kids begging for food and never donated any money. Do you fish? If so, catch and release? You do know about half of the fish kept under those circumstances die, right? Do you swat flies or kill poisonous snakes?
     
  4. photo-guy

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    Don't be so "sure" about your "feeling". Are you "sure" that you've done more hunting than me? Are you "sure" that you can break more skeet targets in a row than me? How are you "sure"?

    Oh ... and how can you be "sure" that someone values the welfare of people around them -- when they torture weak animals for a video goof?

    ::)

    LOL
     
  5. dpruitt7450

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    lol very true
     
  6. =Jwin=

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    I've done worse to animals than stick little cheap fish in a clear container that lights up...

    I am on Peredhil's and xmetalfan's side 100%. They are fish. You can breed neon tetras by the hundreds. They're brains are so simple they probably don't even "feel" pain as we think of feeling.

    A quote fits well here. "Why does someone believe you when you say there are four billion stars, but check when you say the paint is wet?" Why do people not feel even a twinge of guilt when they see distant world problems on the news, but freak out when they see 2 three dollar fish (if that) getting stuck in a clear part of a cell phone with their own tank water?

    It baffles me.
     
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  7. photo-guy

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    Could it be because you're assuming that I'm not concerned about the suffering of people on the news?? No worries, I AM concerned about the suffering of people.

    But I can ALSO express dissapproval of the torture of some little animal for a video goof.

    It's not so complex.

    If you'd like to be proactive and start a thread that complains about "distant world problems", then I will be happy to join you there. Who knows, maybe I'm more concerned about that than you are?

    Does that help?
     
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  9. ZachB

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    The first comment I wouldn't admit to or be proud of. That's actually kind of sad.

    True, they're "just fish." Kind of ironic that people think it's OK to put a tetra in a phone - but at the same time spend thousands on equipment and fish and corals to give them a good life. Would it be OK to keep a clownfish in a 1 gallon tank? It's just a fish, right? They can be bred by the hundreds too. What makes them so special?

    Yes, it baffles me too.
     
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  10. Peredhil

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    or maybe he was speaking generally and not specifically about you. I think he makes a valid point.

    I've done a lot worse to fish too. Like I said earlier. I put fish hooks through live fish so they can be eaten alive. I've eaten trout out of the river alive. I filet fish I catch without killing them first.

    There's nothing there that brings me shame. That's just how we do things.

    It is ironic (or perhaps hypocritical)... I can't see how on the one hand you can take fish out of a natural habitat (which we can agree isn't good for the reef), live caught no less, so they can go through the type of fish losses that are seen in stocking your local LFS, to put them in an unnatural boxed in habitat... and then worry about some mass bred animal with an extremely primitive nervous system (as far as fish go). It baffles me these double standards.

    That fish is no better than bait in a tiny room.

    I do not feel sympathy for bait.
     
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    I mean, in all seriousness do we know the fish even died? No we don't. From what we know, they were out of water for a few seconds and then they were in water in a tight space for about a minute or two. It's not a big deal.

    In spear fishing, we impale a fish, who was minding his own business, with a sharp metal object shot using a surgical tubing sling. Then we pull the fish out of water, and keep him impaled on the spear as we swim him to the boat. Then he's stuck in a bucket with other dying fish until he dies.

    To be honest, a fish being stuck in a 2"x3"x0.5" container in his own water doesn't sound too bad now does it? That's like my bed being put in a closet.

    And to reply to the clownfish thing, if clowns were bigger and tasted good, I'd eat them. I see fish in public aquariums that I've had before. Mahi Mahi are beaitiful fish, but being 3' long kind of prevents them from being stuck in our home aquariums. Where's their defense? I consider buying wild cought fish to be inhumane, but all of us on this site still do it.

    Basically I can think of quite few fates worse than being stuck in a cell phone. And no one flips out when they hear about those.