My Interview Onboard RV Heraclitus

Discussion in 'General Reef Topics' started by Matt Rogers, Oct 15, 2003.

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  1. arickosmo

    arickosmo Astrea Snail

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    hey, im new...

    Please pay attention to the studies though. Has anyone ever looked at whether or not the sun is closer to the earth than it was years/decades/centuries ago. I don't believe in the global warming theories that are reported. Most of them can not be substantiated. I'm no expert, but I do know that they can accurately tell how far away the sun is from us.

    As for these other problems, what you have is a bunch of third world peoples, and governments, doing whatever they can to make a buck and get their satellite dishes. That, I will agree, is bad. It is not our fault for wanting these little beauties for our living rooms. It is our fault for being uneducated/uncaring enough to learn how we got them or where they came from. The buyer always has the power, so if we just spen more money and time learning how to breed these specimens and maintain them in a healthy environment we will be better off. It will cost us all more in the shortrun but will have huge dividends for our sons and daughters when they grow up and learn to dive. Life is for the pursuit of happiness, enjoy it and make sure the next guy can too.

    -andy
     
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  3. Gresham

    Gresham Great Blue Whale

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    What studies are you talking about?

    Stopping all MO collections will lead to the devaluation of the reef to the ones whom use it the most, the locals. If all MO collection is stopped, all things are captive breed (which still require wild MO for broodstock all the time) the locals will put more pressure on the reef thru food fishing/collections. MO collections bring in approx. 40x more value then food collections, so in order for the locals to make the same meager amount from MO, they'll have to put 40x more pressure on the reefs.

    I just noticed the researcher saying something about # of imported coral. I'd like to clear something up about those figures. CITES whom issues most our coral permits, counts all corals as live rock. That figure she denoted, counts all other live rock importation as well. So think I'm making it sound like its far less then stated, think again. Those figures are from importation PROFORMA invoices of LANDED pieces. Proforma invoices are basicly bogus ones to help exporters and importers cheat taxes. The amount shown on the proforma is usually far less then is actually being imported. It also doesn't include all the cull of undesirable corals, which is speculated to be on the upwards of 1/3 all importations. The biggest problem I see, is not with MO collections of fish, its coral (cyanides big brother) collections. Keep our reefs alive, trade your frags!!!