My personal method of acclimation (Based on my experience ONLY)

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  1. Marshall O

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    I was going to ask the exact same thing...
     
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  3. Renee@LionfishLair

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    Actually, I was curious about the temp thing as well.

    I sit CLOSED bags in tanks to adjust the temp. I do a little salinity test but, I actually don't acclimate at all besides that. No drip. Outta the bag and into the QT.
     
  4. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    I know what a drip acclimation is. I've done it many times before, and i've seen many guides on how to do it. 2 drops each second, with some airtubing with a valve, i can adjust how many drops i need each second. So yes, i do know what it is. Secondly, my house temperature is about 22 - 23 degrees celsius, meanwhile my tank is about 25 degrees celsius (Do the calculations yourself). This will make a HUGE swing in temperature. My tank is doing fine, so cant see whats wrong. Its the only thing that has worked for me so far.
     
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    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    No, i do have a 20 gallon tank. I got 3 very small chromis, a sandsifting goby, a dottyback, and 2 very small clarkii clowns, that i will sell when they get bigger. I already know alot of people, who wants some clarkii's in their 150 - 190 gallon tanks in my area :) I have been testing the nitrates each week, and there are no signs of nitrates, ammonia, phosphate or nitrite. I dont have any algae growth either, not over the usual. I dont have any aggression problems either, my dottyback hasnt even chased my goby or clarkii's yet. Yes 7 big fish is way to much for a 20 gallon tank, but as i said i'm going to sell the fish when they get bigger, and thats what i've always done. Everything is doing very well, so cant see whats wrong here? :)
     
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    That's EXACTLY what drip acclimation is for!!!! Acclimating them slowly to the differences between tanks/containers. So you would be drip acclimating them from 22 - 25. That's the point of the whole procedure.

    Don't do that. We want to keep this topic on track and remarks such as that will cause it to go downhill very fast.

    Then you were doing something wrong.. It works for 1000s, why not you? I have concerns with new people coming in and reading this and thinking it is the BEST and ONLY way as you keep saying. Nobody has trouble with drip acclimation. You need to be careful of making such remarks when they are clearly untrue.
     
  7. Boywithafishtan

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    I'm not saying that all LFS's are disease free. I've never said that! Also, i've had problems with bad stores. Many times. Even with freshwater too. Secondly, parasites are ALWAYS there. You cant avoid them. Its just if the fish can resist them, by having a powerful immune system. I'm not putting insane ideas into beginners heads, i'm just doing what in my experience has worked, and is the only thing that works. Why can't i do whats right for my tank? My 7 fish are all very small right now, and they get enough food, swimming space, and they are having no issues with aggression. So, its not quite overstocked yet, but i will be selling most of my fish when they get bigger, and start over again. All my fish expect of my goby and dottyback are all juveniles. No problems what so ever. I do respect your opinions, but you dont really respect mine. I'm glad that you guys can understand me, since i've had some trouble with that in the past :) I do understand you, but the things you say have never worked well for me. This method, is the only thing that works for me, so thats why i say "Why make such a big deal out of it, if it works and the fish are happy and healthy?". Healthy fish run a lot lower risk of getting attacked by diseases and parasites, and if your fish store doesn't do lots of new arrivals all the time, it will all be fine. This method, prevents parasites. There is no way "i" can get any bad things into my system because of medication, since it again is not legal. So why is this wrong? There is nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing. When your LFS doesnt have copper or malachite or any other bad material in their water, they usually dont really have anything that is more different from your tank. In fact, if your store is really good at keeping nitrates and things like that low, there might be absolutely no difference. The only things i can add to my tank using this method is parasites, but my store doesnt have parasites at the moment. THATS WHY I SAY "Check all of the fish in the store, make sure they are all healthy, and ask how long they've been there".
     
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    But even though you are saying that it will change the temperature, it has never done that on me, simply because of the fact that its very cold here in the winter (It was about -6 degrees) when i used these methods. In the summer, this might work fine, where the temperature is high in your room as well, but NO WAY at the winter. Thats what SO many other danish people say it too "Dont use methods, where you'll seperate the fish and the tank from eachother, cause the temperature will drastically change". I said, do the calculations on how many fahrenheit an amount of celsius is. I didnt try to be offensive! Again, sometimes you guys misunderstand me, and i get it :). So... If this has worked with me very well, but the drip acclimation never has been working well for me in the winter seasons, why is there anything wrong with what i'm doing? If the fish are happy, adjusted to all the different things in the water, and are eating right after i put them into the tank, what is the problem? I really dont understand why you go so crazy about this, it really doesnt make any sense. I've said MANY times now, that this method might not work for some people, but i know many places here in Europe, where medication is illegal, or the stores simply just dont want to use it, where they actually can benefit from this method. I'm not saying this is the only right way for you, but its the best way possible for me, and its without doubt, to least stressful for your fish. No nets, no catching, no moving, not anything. And they adjust to the salinity, ph, alkalinity and temperature just as well as with the drip method. So again, i can't see the problem here. If you do see any problems with what i'm doing, please come with an argument, that says that it is wrong to use for me? If its wrong, why does it work so well for me? I really dont get it.
     
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    See... right there.... that's an untrue statement. It will help fight some parasites, but not all, not all of the time and not in all environments. That's not experience talking, that's research.

    This will probably get closed eventually. I'm hoping we all keep can keep it going.
     
  11. Boywithafishtan

    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    And guys, dont you see the big fat black text that says CAUTION! I have said it so many times now. I'm just saying, in my experience, this is the only way that works. And no, i'm not the only one, many other danish people does this too, i even talked with a norwegain dude, who did the same thing. I'm NOT the only one.
     
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    Boywithafishtan Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Well ok, i'm wrong on the parasite thing, but as i said, if the store doesnt have new arrival constantly, and they have fish for a long time, without having trouble with parasites, there are no risk of putting parasites in your tank, simply because of that. Also, the store where i got these fish, they had some really nice powder blue tangs, and purple tangs, and many other sensitive species of fish, and they were all doing well, i just got my clarkii after waiting a week. And everything is fine! 2 minutes after they got added to the tank, they found my sebae, and they have gone completely crazy with it :D! Also, a minute after that, they ate ALOT of cyclop-eeze, those little guys are fast! Anyway, i'm talking from my experience, and how me and many other people around my country and cold areas have found a method that works. I just went on a danish forum, and they said that it worked for them too, and they have used it in years, so i'm not the only one. I think that you guys have misunderstanded me alot. I would like to say, that i dont try to be rude, disrespectful, or trying to be smarter, than the people who have been in this saltwater hobby ALOT longer than me. I'm just talking from my own experience, and what i've found out works.