My puffer has weird eyes.

Discussion in 'Tropical Fish' started by dougz419, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. Froc3

    Froc3 Fire Goby

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    +1 on Params, could be a parasite
     
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  3. phoenixhieghts

    phoenixhieghts Panda Puffer

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    I also noticed its skinny - this puffer is in some serious need of of meaty foods, krill or silverslides should do the job.
     
  4. dougz419

    dougz419 Plankton

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    ph is 8.2-8.4
    salinity is at 1.019
    nothing else has begun to happen i started the tank a week ago
     
  5. scenario1313

    scenario1313 Tassled File Fish

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    This is a problem all in its own. To early for a fish like that.
     
  6. totter0817

    totter0817 Purple Spiny Lobster

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    Agree, that is way to early, hopefully that was just a typo because if you have only had the entire tank setup for a week, I can't imagine that poor fish surviving
     
  7. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    Unfortunately, being that the tank is only a week old, it isn't ready for any bioload. Your ammonia and nitrite levels are probably very high right now, which will cause ammonia burning on the fish. High toxicity will cause a cloudy look in the tank, which is what I see. I would go back and ask your LFS is they can hold the fish for you until your tank is properly cycled. If not, the chances of his survival are very grim at best. Sorry for bearing bad news, but honestly is sometimes best. Try to find an established tank for him to live in for the next month if you can.
    And as far as him being skinny, most juveniles I have seen are like that, they just need to eat more. My puffer was like that for 2 weeks until I fed him selcon soaked krill.
     
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  9. morau89

    morau89 Fire Shrimp

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    wow one week, if i were you i would return the fish and start with something smaller. Also your "salinity" which i think you mean specific gravity is very low. It should be around 1.025.
     
  10. dougz419

    dougz419 Plankton

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    im going to talk to the pet store that sold me the fish they told me the fish was a good fish to cycle out the tank they said puffers would be good triggers would be good they told me the lion shouldn't be bad but it wasn't their first choice i had the tank running for about a two weeks before i put the fish in but the cycling doesn't happen until the fish are in and yea i did mean the specific gravity they also told me since im doing fish only a lower salinity would be good because some parasites cant live in a salinity that low which is good for the fish. last i check on sun the ammonia and nitrites have not begun to peak but i will check them immediately as far as the eye the eye looks completely empty as if he didnt have anything in the socket when i look at the fish you see both spheres but i could see right threw them is that what cataracts is cuz i thought that it had something to do with a film over the eye also i have noticed that when the fish looks at me from his good eye he reacts to my hand movement but with his other eye he doesnt react.
     
  11. morau89

    morau89 Fire Shrimp

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    Puffers and triggers are not good fish to cycle with, especially puffers because they are so prone to disease. You could always just throw a peice of raw shrimp in the tank so you don't have to kill any fish to cycle the tank. The puffer is most likely going to die when the cycle kicks in. Even if the low specific gravity helps with parasites it is not going to protect the puffer from ammonia and nitrite poisoning. If you are going to use a fish to cycle the tank then a damsel would be the way to go.
     
  12. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    Personally, I would look for a new LFS. Puffers aren't cheap fish to begin with, and telling you that they are good cycling fish is a flat out lie to get you to buy another $40+ fish after he dies in a week or two. What gets the cycling process started is starting a source of ammonia in the tank. Some people use damsels or chromis, some toss in a piece of dead shrimp or krill and let it rot in the tank to start the ammonia (without fish in the tank). I use about 1/2 a cup of pure ammonia to start it. Aerobic bateria will grow to break the ammonia down to nitrites, then they will break the nitrites down to nitrates (NO3). You will see a diatom and algae growth that will absorb the nitrates. You will then have anaerobic bacteria grown to naturally break down the nitrates into nitrogen gas. Once that happens, the algae will die and your tank will be ready for one small fish.
    Having your fish in a low SG tank will cause more stress to it, it's not in its natural environment.
    Here is my puffer about 2 weeks after I brought him home. Eyes are bright and healthy and he has a healthy plump body.
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