Need Help A.s.a.p

All the params were pretty good as of a few days before this incident.

We had everything checked and it was all within normal limits.


As far as researching before we buy - we did research the regal tang - some places say 20gallon or bigger, some say 50, etc, etc. We even told our local fish store what we had and he said it should be fine.


Before we bought the pre-mixed for this last water change, we actually tried mixing our own (got the filtered/dechlorinated water from store, then added salt from the bag we received upon purchase of the tank) but it didn't go over too well. We stirred for a long time and we could never get all of the salt crystals to "melt" into the water, using the correct amount of salt per the bag of sand. The salinity never even came close either, while mixing our own.

 

Tank way too young to support that kind of bioload.

"Nature" is adjusting your fish population to level tank can support.

Sorry...:-[

 

First off I won't tell you what size tank a tang should be in the tang police have handled that job!

Tangs are notorious for having ich, some say that they all come with it and it just a matter of time before they get stressed enough or something happens that causes a breakout. Chances are the spots were there but the cysts had not burst then when they burst they were more noticeable.

As far as the clown goes that is a hard one, he didn't have any spots on him? He could have gotten ich from the tang.

I wouldn't trade the 6 line in because then your just giving a possibly diseased fish to your LFS which might cause the some problems. is he sick? do you have a quarantine tank?

If not I would recommend you get one, a 10 gallon, sponge filter and heater is all that is required. and when adding fish to your tank out them in there for at least a week or 2 this will keep you display tank disease free. I set one up and the total cost was 26 buck not including water which considering how much money I have invested in fish and coral is a really cheap insurance policy.

treating your display tank can be dangerous at best, I would take the 6 line out and leave it fish free for at least 6 to 8 weeks. this will give the Ich time to run its course. then you can put fish back in.

Treating with Garlic sometime help keep fish that would normally get sick and die stay healthy. I feed all my tanks food treated with garlic 2 times a week. Cant say for sure that this is why I have never had any problems but I like to think it is. give that quarantine tank some though and good luck

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keep one thing in mind, you local fish store is in the bussiness of selling fish, and if they tell you that the tank was to small they would not have sold anythig to you would they? So as a rule of thumb I listen to my LFS but I make up my own mind and don't let them make my decisions. Better yet, wait go home, and post a question on 3 reef and you will get lots of information that you can base your decission on. Good Luck

 

Take everything you hear with a grain of salt, even advice from here. That's not directed at anyone, someone mentioned research...you can never do enough. Try to understand why someone says "do this and this" most people mean well but it isn't always the intentions that get us results.

Where did the water you used come from?

 

The person we bought the tank from had been running it for over 2 years.


Would adding 1 regal tang really throw everything off that much?



We have been adding a little minced garlic to our food (frozen shrimp "cubes")

We have been entertaining the idea of setting up a quarantine tank as well, since we were told/read that the ich parasites have a life cycle of about 28 days (no fish for 4 weeks = nothing ich can live on)

Anyone have a link for how to set up a quarantine tank?

 

Read this amberj, by no means am I trying to "put" you down, but in my exp.(over 20 yrs) I've learned some things.



RESTRICTED SPECIES: This species is very difficult to keep and should only be attempted by expert aquarists, or is a `delicate shipper.` Our Arrive Alive guarantee is not available on this item.

Regal Angel - Pygoplites diacanthus
Maximum Size: the Pygoplites diacanthus grows up to 10 inches.
General Size Specifications: small 2 to 3; inches; medium 3 to 4; inches; large 5 to 7 inches; XL 7 to 10 inches. Sizes may vary slightly due to availability.
Minimum Tank Size: The Regal Angel prefers a tank of at least 80 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Pygoplites diacanthus is a omnivore and likes to eat marine algae, mysid shrimp, Spirulina, sponges, and other meaty treats.
Level of Care: The Regal Angel is a medium maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Regal Angel may act semi-aggressively toward other fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Range: Indo-Pacific, Philippines.
General Notes: The Regal Angelfish, Pygoplites diacanthus. Of the many species of marine angelfishes offered to the hobby, some groups are sure winners. Most "dwarf angels (e.g. the genera Centropyge and Genicanthus) readily accept aquarium conditions, eagerly eat all foods.Full size angels should not be mixed with other full size angels, unless it is in a tank of at least 180 gallons. The coloration of the Regal Angel makes this one of the more popular of the Angels. However, the Regal Angel remains one of the hardest Angels to keep in captivity. Specimens from the Red Sea, seem to be a bit hardier than ones from the Pacific, but this is not always the case, as specimens from Vanuatu, Fiji, Tahiti, and other smaller Island Nations seem to fare as well as ones found in the Red Sea. It can also be noticed that the Red Sea variety is richer in coloration, than its Pacific forms in that the coloration has a much brighter yellow and blue pattern. As well as the Red Sea- Indo Pacific variety has a yellow breast, while the Pacific is gray-breasted. It would be highly recommended that if an Aquarist decided to acquire a specimen, that it be housed in a Reef type aquarium or a peaceful community aquarium with plenty of hiding places.

 

Hey guys as usual we are gettign off track here... she didn't ask if her tank was to small for a tang, she has a problem and she asked if we had any ideas what might have killed the clown. This is one of the reaasons I hate reef crentral and like this site we normally don't do this....

If we always jump on people asking questions that happen to mention that they have a tang in a tank it does not belong in these people are going to be afraid to ask questions. Lets stick to the topic please and the topic was "why did my clown die too!"


Luna, there are 2 or 3 hundred pages out there that all say something different, if one looks long enough you can find one that says what you want it to say, I am not by anymeans saying your wrong casue we all know you are but I saying someone told them it was okay so they bought it so lets let it alone now...

 

I dont understand that statement?

 

Luna - it is not a Regal Angel

It is a Regal Tang (aka Blue Tang, or Hippo Tang).


not saying that some of your post doesn't apply - but we have corals and I believe a Angel fish would harm those (thats why we didnt get any angels)


Everyone - thanks for the help so far but like Gazog said, we are trying to figure out this problem and find a solution as to how we can stop it before our tank dies

 

Good luck,