new ro di deal

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  1. AZDesertRat

    AZDesertRat Giant Squid

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    I don't know why International shipping has to be such a hassle, especially Canada. Heck the UPS or Fed Ex truck should be able to deliver it same and here. Is it the government that gets a big cut?
     
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  3. nc208082

    nc208082 Zoanthid

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    Unfortunately that is why, any goods or services crossing borders has additional fees which suck for instances such as this. For me to order a simple ro device which weighs about 33 lbs to ship from Arizona to Toronto would run about 150 dollars with customs and taxes etc, so the deal doesn't help me much unfortunately,

    Are aquafx good brands, the big als around here carries them. I'm guessing I'll have Togo to different stores and check out prices and variety's I'll keep a lookout for spectrapure but does anyone know of any other good reliable brands I should consider if i cant come across spectrapure.

    Btw Desert Rat thank you for your vast knowledge of clean water I honestly didn't have a good understanding of the concept compared to the information you provided.
     
  4. AZDesertRat

    AZDesertRat Giant Squid

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    Some of the AquaFX systems are OK but nothing special. They do have a buildyou own option but the cost ends up $75 or $100 higher than the Spectrapure CSPDI or MaxCap and you don't get the benefit of the treated and tested RO membrane, absolute rated prefilter, they don't tell you the micron or chlorine rating of the carbon block they provide, they don't blend their own DI resin and they probably don't use capillary tube flow restrictors so you can fine tune the waste ratio. I'm not sure there is any benefit as the cost will be about the same as a Spectrapure unit including shipping and it will not perform as well.
     
  5. mocarski

    mocarski Bristle Worm

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    I upgraded my Kent 24gpd unit to a 75gpd. If you are already replacing the filters and membranes all you need is to replace the flow restrictor and get the right membrane. Cost me less than $5 for the new flow restrictor.
     
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    I agree 100%..I had bought a similar unit from ebay. a while ago...it worked great foe a while....BUT..when it came time to find replacement filter and doing some research I found they were using poor filters and membranes..so with the help of AZ(thank you sir) and spectrapure I have up grade my existing unit to be top notch..and could not be happier...point being spend the proper cash now for a REAL reef RO?DI unit or spend more later(like me)..do your home work and listen t AZ he knows his stuff..
     
  7. nc208082

    nc208082 Zoanthid

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    OK so I went to a few stores this morning and my last store was the best i thought. they knew of spectrapure and used to use it and carry it, They now use Vertex brand and he showed me the unit, they have it hooked up to make all their water and this little machine blew me away. he told me they use the same ge membrane spectrapure uses so it is of comparable quality, the machine is 100 gpd and includes a booster pump. hes selling it to me for 350 bucks.

    Vertex Aquaristik > Products > Water Purification Systems > RO / DI Systems > Deluxe Puratek 100 RO / DI

    this is a link to it. Anyone use this brand or know about it? seems to be my cheapest and best option since i live in Canada.
     
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    civiccars2003 Great Blue Whale

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    Given you live in Canada, that does indeed change some things. If you like the unit and the fish store uses it, I say why not, get it.
     
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    nc208082 Zoanthid

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    Yeah I have been doing my research and most of the stores around here only carry coralife, kent, and aquafx. But this last store carried the vertex and that seemed like my best option. I love the spectrapure and the price but the shipping and all would bring that 260 dollar unit up to over 400. plus i have to worry about stupid customs breaking it. But the vertex also comes with a booster pump which is a bonus.

    I dont understand why getting equipment in Canada can be tough like this, beause i can get almost any type of fish or coral but a new ro di unit is next to impossible.
     
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    civiccars2003 Great Blue Whale

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    That's my problem I'm dealing with now. I need a booster pump.
     
  12. AZDesertRat

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    The Vertex units are poor quality Chinese knock offs and they have not done their homework.
    All membranes must be flushed and thats the reason for the 4:1 waste ratio. Every long time vendor and manufacturer has tried a low waste solution, many for years and years, but all failed and were given up on years ago. Talk to the RO membrane manufacturers like Dow Filmtec and GE ( Spectrapure does not use GE membranes by the way). The only system that actually works and has a proven track record is the Spectrapure MaxCap UHE ultra low waste RO/DI, the only one period.

    The reason is they use stored DI water, unlike all the imitators and supposed copy cats, to flush the RO membrane using a computer microprocessor so it clean the membrane. ALL other including the Vertex use plain high TDS tap water which adds the very TDS you are trying to remove back into the picture. It does not work GUARANTEED. Ask any long time RO or RO/DI vendor, they ahve all attempted it and given up. Vertex is an import who has little if any experience in the membrane business and will probably make their money and go out of business leaving you high and dry. Don't believe their false claims and do some research on the units, they receive a ton of complaints.

    I have personally seen one disassembled and it scared the daylights out of me with its 120 volt AC sollenoids and components in direct contact with water, any legitimate vendor or manufacturer would use 12 or 24V DC components to make it safe for the end user. They are in no way even close to a Spectrapure system or even some of the ebay quality units, stay far away!