Nitrate Reduction

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  1. imagasboy

    imagasboy Plankton

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    My tank is completing its cycle, ammonia is at 0, and nitrites are falling from 1 down to .25 as of last Sunday. My question is regarding the nitrates, which are currently at 20ppm. I am running a FOWLR and I know nitrates aren't as harmful in this setup, but I'd like to keep them as close to 0 as possible to prevent algea and maintain general fish health. Should I expect the nitrates to fall from 20 as part of the cycle with FOWLR once I get the skimmer running? I don't think so, and planned on doing a 25% WC this weekend to reduce, before adding my 1st fish/cleanup crew.

    My question is on what my options for Nitrate control are. As I understand it, the LR will not significantly reduce nitrates, and my skimmer will help remove the organics that become nitrates, but in general there is no biological "nitrate removal" mechanism in my system currently. I don't have a DSB, or sump, I am running a canister with bio-balls which help ammonia-trites-trates but not remove nitrates.

    I am not looking for a replacement to water changes, but perhaps just a method to help reduce the number (closer to monthly rather than weekly) and minimize algea growth since I travel frequently and don't want my fiance doing water changes while I am away.

    Any thoughts on adding one of the nitrate sponges or pads to my canister, and if so which are best? Kent Marine nitrate sponge seems to imply that it is a bacteria control substance, but not sure I believe this. Any ill effects of using these permanently in my canister as a long term solution?

    Am I overthinking this and will the LR along with a skimmer and ~monthly water changes/substrate cleaning help keep my nitrates at a minimum and minimize algea growth? I know a denitrator is another option, though I'm not sure how to integrate one of these without a sump.

    Thanks for your help!
     
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  3. missionsix

    missionsix Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't worry about it as much as you sound. Use good water, good salt, good skimmer, good food(without over-feeding), and your livestock selection/quantity will be pertinent. Keep your regular maintenance on your cannister. Use a powerhead or a turkey baster to blast dead spots in your sub-strate. And I probably left out some advice. Someone may chime in.
     
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    missionsix Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Good clean-up crew depending on tank-mates will also help.
     
  5. wildreef

    wildreef Stylophora

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    well those bio-balls are well noted to be a nitrate factory in a wet/dry style sump/system
     
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    100% agreed. Wonder if that could be a certain friend of ours, problem.
     
  7. wildreef

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    Well not to get off the nitrate subject and get the post leading off to somthing else.
    Our mutual friend i think ( weve been having sevral conversations and think basicly changing his style of maintanance and other things are having a small part to play in it all )

    I think it will be easily corrected though as he doe's
     
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  9. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    I've also heard the same from some ppl, but at the same time, I've heard the opposite. I know someone that has had BB for over 15 yrs Without cleaning them and with no issues. Who really knows???? Luna
     
  10. amcarrig

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    Correct. I've never had a problem using bio-balls. The trick is to not overfeed your tank and to keep the bio-balls clean. If you're willing to keep the maintenance up on them, they work better than most nitrate reducing methods on the market.
     
  11. lunatik_69

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    How do you properly clean BB's? Luna
     
  12. amcarrig

    amcarrig Super Moderator

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    Rinse them in saltwater every 6 months or so (assuming you're not overfeeding which would cause you to need to rinse them more often). :) If you're using them in a wet/dry system, you only want to remove and rinse one half of the bio-balls at a time to reduce the risk of killing off too much bacteria at one time (you will kill off a little but not all of the bacteria by pulling them out and cleaning them). When used in a canister filter, I would guess that they would collect alot more detritus than they would in a wet dry so you'd have to clean them more often.