Oil in the Gulf

Problem being that oil company's profits are so excessive that if you fine one day of profits per day the oil flows I don't believe that they would care too much. I am sure any money out of their pocket that they would just pass their costs onto the consumer. I'd bet non of their executives would take any cuts.

The Fed's are certainly not doing much either. I will not get into a political discussion but I for one am not happy. I'll leave it at that.

I try not feed the oil company's as I brew my own bio-diesel and use synthetic oils for lubrication. I know that most people can't stop their use of gas but I for one will never buy anything from a BP again.

 

I wanted to get down there this summer and dive the Mighty O but with all this mess I doubt that will happen. I just think back on the fields of purple sea fans, rays, barracuda, spiny lobsters. Your right just so much to explain.

 

It depends on what plan works first....

 

I started to read this thread and just skipped to the end, I read a post from someone who is clearly uneducated and I do not have time for such people.

This spill is a devastating blow that will impact all of us, and I mean all – this will have global economic impact (on so many horrible levels)

Someone reported boats being paid and not performing as promised, not sure who posted that as I was skimming….hat’s off to you and I additionally thank you for the forward thinking and initiative.


I have posted on other threads on this forum, my wife and I are avid divers. The Keys are a site to hold – the thought that my 11 and 9 year old may never get the chance to see what I have sickens me to no end. I pray that the oil does not destroy the utter beauty of the keys (or for that matter, the rest of the gulf). Oil on beaches will be cleaned up, the marsh lands will regrow in many years – but a reef can take a life time to return.

In 1997 then president Clinton declared the year “the year of the reef”. Groups were formed to save reef’s world wide. Google for a reef organization nearest you and contribute.

 

Humans will continue to impact the planet and consume it's resources. 6 billion people and growing tend to do that. If you want to be a part of the solution, stop using resources. Americans are the biggest resource hogs on the planet. Yes that includes you.

There have been 5 major extinction events and there will be more. I'm sure one will even be caused by us and include us. I'm sure all the CO2 based life was not too happy with Algae. This planet will shrug us off like a bad case of fleas.

Yellowstone will blow again. The poles will melt and the Earth will freeze over. The ocean conveyors and the magnetic poles will continue to reverse. In the end the Sun will swallow the Earth and that will be that. Such is life.

 

See, the problem with that mindset is that some of those events are totally unavoidable. We don't have a large impact, if any, on the eruptions of volcanoes, the reversing of the poles, and the expansion of the sun. We, as individuals and societies, absolutely do have power over whether we overfish, overpopulate, and overconsume.

 

Right.... so the solution to me seems to limit population. Who is going to be the first to vollunteer? I've done my part, I don't have offspring.

We can cut our consumption in half and all that will do is allow our population to double. The problem isn't BP, the problem is 6 billion people wanting a standard of living that is afforded only to humans.

Do you not find it ironic that we preach of the evils of BP and offshore drilling on a computer on the web on a forum that is based on a completly luxury hobby, that consumes even more resources???

 

I am all for drilling myself, but BP messed up by ignoring failed tests when they should have shut the well down Thats ignorance and greed in my opinion

What’s with the comment about America? Is that founded in any fact or just media regurgitation ?

How do I unsubscribe from threads ?

edit - found it on the email, unscubscribed

 

I'm not about absolving resposibility. BP certainly has screwed the pooch on this one. But they don't drill for oil to store in a tank. They drill for oil to supply a demand.

Also.... look at any stat you want. We consume the most energy per capita, use the most water per capita, we produce the most waste per capita. We use the most resources per capita. I'm no media parrot. That is cold hard facts. We also enjoy a standard of living second to none. We have shifted from a manufacturing based economy to a "consumer" based economy. And I'm on no soap box. I would buy a bigger house if I could afford it, drive more cars, and have a bigger tank if I could. I sleep fine at night. I just think it is hypocritical in all these types of discusions when all the end users complain about the evil supliers. Just sayin'.

 

No. BP ignored safety tests, which is an obvious indicator of "something's wrong here". It is direct feedback.

People aren't seeing the impact of most of the actions that are killing the environment. There is no direct feedback to the people doing the destroying; only the people who watch the environment get to see the impact.